Originally Posted by habacomike
Very interesting. A question for the more experienced of you -- in discussing the release, he seems to imply that you need to square to the skis slightly so you can climb the wall. Yet it seems to me that the release is the point of greatest tension between the upper and lower body?
Just try to put this all together...
They* say a picture is worth a thousand words and @Bob Barnes
(as we know) puts some good ones together! Do the images on Bob's Dynamic Parallel Turns illustration coincide with your mental picture of release: "…release is the point of greatest tension between the upper and lower body?"
The wording you use is very interesting! …and maybe quite telling. Look up "release". Some definitions include:
to let go, set free, to stop holding, to allow, set free from restraint
None of those strike me as synonyms for "the point of greatest tension".
I think of (and experience) the transition/float phase between turns as a period of relaxation. Not a point, a period of time. I suspect you and I think of transitions differently?! You skiing this coming week?
Been a couple days now since I viewed the clips that rollo put up, but my take away that I recall is more about flow and the complimentary trajectories of the CoM and feet/BoS as well as the purpose and drive when exiting one turn to carry our energy and drive into the next turn. I think JF referred to turns as skiing the wall of one bowl then across to the wall of the next bowl. I think Bob's illustration depicts the same drive and purpose to carry as much energy as possible out of a turn and into the next.
Often times we get in the paradigm of "regulating our descent" down the mountain or "controlling our speed"; often in these cases we hold onto the turn too long and stall out a bit while resisting our descent down the mountain, then we dump across our skis down the fall line while our skis are pointed across the hill. In doing so we set ourselves up to then have to pivot our skis in order to now bring them into line with the direction we are now going (down the fall line) or a bit more to establish a steering angle, thus we miss the top of the turn. I interpret the video as this being what JF is describing to AVOID when he talks about the wall, flow, bank, release.
When looking at videos of good skiers (Sebastien Michel or JF's for example) I get no sense of "regulating descent"; downhill doesn't seem to be on their mind, as they are not going "downhill", rather they are "going into the next turn" - with all the energy they can bring into it. Both the CoM and BoS are traveling across the hill on diverging but complimentary paths.
The squaring up is not really something I think to focus on …it is going to happen in short, medium, or long radius turns as you flow from one turn to the next (see Bob's illustration.) However, if you are focused down the hill maybe you have a bias to stay oriented that direction and focusing over there toward the next bowl might cause you to orient yourself that way a bit more? I'd say give it a try! …and GO over there with all you can muster out of the last turn. Either way, my sense is that JF is pretty relaxed during that period between bowls …it seems so when I watch him ski anyway.
Unfortunately you'll have to go skiing and try it. Suffer through stoically!
Originally Posted by Bob Barnes
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