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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Hi!

 

We live in Mexico City and we are planning ahead on a one week family trip to Colorado or California in early january.

 

5, 6 and 7 years old kids first timers:

- They want to start learning ski

- They want tubing, snowmans, sleds and all that funny stuff kids likes to do in the snow.

- swimming pool

 

 

4 adults (beginners-intermediate snowboarders and skiers).

- We want to be near the slopes and the ski school (don't wanna move a lot arround, since is not that easy with gear + kids).

- good snow!!! (i will pray for some pow pow, lol)

- Hot tubs

- We don't party at night (so we don't care if there's night life).

- We want to be in a condo or something alike (to cook breakfeast and some dinners).

 

I've been to Vail and Lionshead is what comes to my mind, but Tahoe looks nice.

 

I need to plan ahead cause it's not cheap. I need to take the best desition based on probabilities,

 

Any advice is appreciated. :)

post #2 of 19

I think most years the probabilities would point to CO for better snow over CA in early January.  However CA could be great many years too. Most of the major areas in CO would work great for your interests.  I think Beaver Creek is pretty snowsure due to great snowmaking and grooming and is especially friendly for beginner/intermediates.

post #3 of 19
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Hi!

 

We live in Mexico City and we are planning ahead on a one week family trip to Colorado or California in early january.

 

5, 6 and 7 years old kids first timers:

- They want to start learning ski

- They want tubing, snowmans, sleds and all that funny stuff kids likes to do in the snow.

- swimming pool

 

 

4 adults (beginners-intermediate snowboarders and skiers).

- We want to be near the slopes and the ski school (don't wanna move a lot arround, since is not that easy with gear + kids).

- good snow!!! (i will pray for some pow pow, lol)

- Hot tubs

- We don't party at night (so we don't care if there's night life).

- We want to be in a condo or something alike (to cook breakfeast and some dinners).

 

I've been to Vail and Lionshead is what comes to my mind, but Tahoe looks nice.

 

I need to plan ahead cause it's not cheap. I need to take the best desition based on probabilities,

 

Any advice is appreciated. :)

Welcome to EpicSki!  Never too early to plan when it comes to a group trip.

 

The good news is that these days all the destination resorts have enough snowmaking to make sure that families taking ski trips during the Christmas holidays have a good time.  So for beginners and intermediates, should be plenty of snow for fun anywhere you decide to go.

 

Have you ever used VRBO (Vacation Rentals By Owner) to find a vacation condo/house?

 

Take a look at this thread in Family Skiing because it may give you some ideas of what to consider.  So far, your interests don't really narrow down the options much.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/121323/family-of-five-february-trip-solitude-snowmass-steamboat-etc

 

Here is another Family thread that would be helpful when you start trying to figure out what to pack.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/92869/money-time-saving-tips-for-parents-with-small-children-who-ski

post #4 of 19

Sounds like Snowmass would be perfect.  Great ski school.  Much fewer people than Vail.  Good terrain.  Lots of condos for ski in ski out.  

 

The golf course has a nordic ski center.  I suspect you can sled there.  There's also tubing at Elk Camp on Friday nights:  http://www.aspensnowmass.com/events-and-activities/winter-activities/ullr-nights

 

Aspen is the best skiing in Colorado in my opinion.  It is great for all abilities.  And there's plenty of other activities to enjoy as well.

 

Mike

post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 

Beaver Creek seems more expensive than any other place.

Lesson is $190 but it doesn't include the lift ticket!

 

Am I wrong about it?

post #6 of 19

Morris, Beaver Creek is not cheap.  That being said, I'm not sure that most of the appropriate places will be that much cheaper.  Aspen is a bit less for lessons, but at a difference of $10-20, it really isn't that much (in the grand total of things).

 

You could go to a much smaller resort like Wolf Creek or Monarch.  Neither have much lodging close by and little to no infrastructure for non-skiing endeavors.  An alternative might be Park City which is cheaper.  

 

Certainly you could do Vail/Beaver Creek/Breckenridge.  Just be aware that they will be mobbed on the weekends with crowds from Denver.

 

Mike

post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 

Vail cost $201 per lesson, lift and lunch included. Beaver Creek is 245 per day. That's more than $600 if you multiply by 5 days and 3 kids.

 

Yup, I'm planning arriving on sunday and living on saturday to avoid the weekend's crowd.

post #8 of 19

Ski school for kids is $111/day at Snowmass.  You can get a $10/day discount for advance purchase.  You do have to buy lift tickets separately, but you could buy a Mountain Collective Pass for $99 per kid that'll give them 2 days free plus each additional day is 50% of the window rate:  http://mountaincollective.com.  The MCP may also give you a discount on ski school...

 

I'm a Vail employee (ski school instructor) but I really think you'd get a better deal and better vacation going to Aspen.

 

Mike

post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 

$111? Website says $194

 

http://www.aspensnowmass.com/ski-and-snowboard-schools/child-6-and-under-group-lessons/ages-5-and-6-group-lessons

What does MCP stands for? Mountain collective page?

 

 

Thank you so much!

post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 

Oh, it seems that price is for older kids 7-12

http://www.aspensnowmass.com/ski-and-snowboard-schools/kids-and-teen-group-lessons/ages-7-12-group-lessons

 

Mine is going to be 5 by then :P LOL So no change in price for me :P

 

Is the rental included in Vail price? In Aspen it is.


Edited by Morris - 5/8/14 at 11:12am
post #11 of 19
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$111? Website says $194

 

http://www.aspensnowmass.com/ski-and-snowboard-schools/child-6-and-under-group-lessons/ages-5-and-6-group-lessons

What does MCP stands for? Mountain collective page?

 

 

Thank you so much!

Mountain Collective Pass.

 

Younger kids require more supervision, so that may account for the price difference.

 

Mike

post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 

Is cheaper anyway cause rental is included.

A longer trip from Denver, probably worth it.

post #13 of 19

The Mountain Collective Pass is a special deal that can work out well if skiing 6+ days at at least one of the destination resorts included.  Aspen/Snowmass and Mammoth are two of the six destinations.  However, need to remember that still need to pay 50% of the day ticket rate after the first 2 days.  Or first 3 days if buy soon.  The current price is $369/adult and $99 for a kid age 12 and under.

 

http://mountaincollective.com

post #14 of 19

I wonder if Morris would benefit from one of the "kids ski free" offers from places like Steamboat or Keystone?

post #15 of 19

Also price out Copper Mountain.  The mountain and village would be ideal for your family:

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/index.html

 

You can get a four pack of lift tickets for $149, and each has four additional days for $69 each.

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/plan_and_buy/season_passes/fourpack

post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 

Can't find kids lessons on the website :/

post #17 of 19
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Can't find kids lessons on the website :/

 

Bummer, they were up there a couple weeks ago.  Not sure, but I'd guess kids lessons at Copper should be comparable to Breck and Keystone and less than Vail/BC and Aspen.  Give them a call, or mabye @MEfree30 can comment, as I believe he teaches at both Breck and Copper.

 

The Cirque at Copper is a really great condo to stay at for your requirements, as it has fantastic pools and hot tubs and is close to the beginner area/ski school.  It's the most expensive property at Copper, but not terribly expensive in January and worth it for the pools with kids:

http://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/colorado/northwest/copper-mountain/cirque

http://www.coppercolorado.com/winter/plan_and_buy/lodging/copper_properties/

 

Note that January after the Christmas crowds are gone is low season at all the resorts, and a great time to find a (relative) bargain on a trip.  Shop around, compare, and call the resorts to work the best deal for your needs.

post #18 of 19
Tball, Aspen is less expensive than Breck/keystone. My impression of the ski school for kids at Copper is that it is a far inferior product to Breck which is substantially behind Aspen. But someone else may have better info on Copper.

Breck and Aspen have extremely well organized programs for kids.

Mike
post #19 of 19
Look at Winter Park as well. They tend to have good all inclusive deals that can also include lessons and it is a great family mountain.
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