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Resale value of buying used demo skis?

post #1 of 16
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Around this time of year, ski resorts are trying to get rid of their stock including used demo skis.  Because of this, you can get skis for sometimes more than half off.  For example, I paid $350 for a pair of used Ross E88s including demo bindings.  I'm wondering how well ski like this hold their value.

 

What have people's experience been selling a ski during the next ski season?  Is it a safe bet that I could unload my skis for the price I acquired them?  I could imagine it would be fun, and not much of a financial risk this time of year, to acquire some ski gear, try them out the next ski season, and sell what doesn't jive with you IF it's likely to recoop the price paid. Thoughts?

post #2 of 16

Almost all new stuff depreciates quickly as they move from pristine new to lightly used. Cars are the most common example. If yo  buy a ski that is still in production with a popular binding for $350 you're paying somewhere between 35% and 50% of new price. You will probably not get your money back but you will get closer to your original price than if you paid full retail off the rack in December. 

post #3 of 16

Keeping on the car analogy, would you ever by a rental car? Hell No! Most people I know wouldn't touch a demo with a ten foot pole. Most skis have any where from 30 to 60 days on the ski. Add in a bunch of Texans ripping the ski apart during their one week on the mountain or his teen age son. No thanks.   

post #4 of 16

I bought a pair of 2012-13 demo Atomic Rituals with demo bindings in early December last year.  I think I paid about $400 including shipping.  They had some minor dings in the topsheets but the bases and edges were perfect.  They were pretty much all I skied the last 6-8 weeks of the season because we had so much snow.  I've made a lot of runs on them and I'm very happy with them.  I would do it again.  I don't buy rental cars, although my 2009 Outback was some sort of program return when I bought it, had about 4,500 miles on it.  It now has nearly 130,000 miles, still runs great, but will get replaced in 2015 or 2016 with a new AWD vehicle that can tow 3,500 pounds.

post #5 of 16

Not the same as a "car".  Poor analogy.  No moving parts in a ski, not much chance of major hidden damage, bent frame, flood, sawdust in transmission LOL!  If the bases are clean, flat, no core shots, there is plenty of edge left to tune, camber is what it should be, and the bindings are functional there isn't a whole lot to worry about.  You could have stripped binding screws/holes/spinners that have been repaired, but that is the risk with any used ski that comes mounted.  Also, I'd rather buy a lightly used demo ski from a reliable shop than a used ski from a complete stranger.  The demo is more likely to have been well maintained not knowing anything about the other owner. 

 

Downside of demo bindings is they are heavy and can have a little extra slop.  Not the tightest, precision fit of a regular binding, but the difference isn't noticeable to most skiers. 

post #6 of 16

Calling @twochordcool.....please pickup the courtesy phone. Question in the used ski department.

 

I'd say anything decent you could get 200$ for. Ebay / Craigs usually higher.

post #7 of 16
Added benefit of buying from my local "resort" -- they will wax the skis as often as you like. I felt much better about my purchase when I found this out. I'm new to the world of skiing, so now I'm wondering, is this standard or special?
post #8 of 16
you won't lose much money compared to a new full price ski, but if you look around brand new skis are being sold with 40% or 50% that's 13/4. 12/13 skis are even lower and the same will be for 13/14 during black friday deals!

last fall there were deals like 12/13 line influence 115 for $200 and it was easy to find bindings for less than $150...

you probably won't have as many options as demo skis, but the popular skis will probably be in worse condition, for me with these sale prices around it's not worth buying demo skis with heavy bindings
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Jareu View Post

Added benefit of buying from my local "resort" -- they will wax the skis as often as you like. I felt much better about my purchase when I found this out. I'm new to the world of skiing, so now I'm wondering, is this standard or special?

Waxing is a 4-5 minute job and pretty much worthless if the edges are dull or there are gouges in the base.  Because I buy my season pass really early I get one free wax a month or $10 credit toward a tune.  I have yet to get any of my skis waxed there.

post #10 of 16

For me, it was a good experience...

 

There was no way I would be able to afford or justify a new set of Kastle's...   But, $269 from EBay got me a 3 year old pair with bindings.  The top was a bit beat up -- but repairable with some epoxy.  The bases, according to my local shop are in very good shape...

 

...  And, for me, they ski GREAT!   Perhaps a new pair would work better.   I don't know and I don't care.  These are doing all that I ask of a ski -- and, for the price I can afford a second set for spring snow ...

post #11 of 16

$350 seems to be the going rate for used demos around CO.  Personally I'd rather pay a little more for a new ski.  I've bought two pairs of new skis in the last year, $299 and $225 then put bindings on for ~$180.   I think the extra $$ is worth it for the extra life.

 

Now, if you can find a demo ski for sale at an open ski area, and you take it out and you like it, I think it's a good deal.  Then you know it's a good ski for you, and you know it still skis with some life.

 

That said, I bought some Volkl AC30's for rock/bump skis that were demos, and I'm the third owner.  Second owner bought for $350 and beat them up.  I bought them for $80 mid-summer :cool but the guy needed money.  They sat on CL at $150 forever and didn't sell.

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

$350 seems to be the going rate for used demos around CO.  Personally I'd rather pay a little more for a new ski.  I've bought two pairs of new skis in the last year, $299 and $225 then put bindings on for ~$180.   I think the extra $$ is worth it for the extra life.

 

Now, if you can find a demo ski for sale at an open ski area, and you take it out and you like it, I think it's a good deal.  Then you know it's a good ski for you, and you know it still skis with some life.

 

That said, I bought some Volkl AC30's for rock/bump skis that were demos, and I'm the third owner.  Second owner bought for $350 and beat them up.  I bought them for $80 mid-summer :cool but the guy needed money.  They sat on CL at $150 forever and didn't sell.

 

Whether the cost of the demos is worth it really depends on the ski. I agree that $350 to $400 is pretty much the going rate for most demo skis with bindings.

 

Buying new skis for $300 tends to mean you are buying whatever is left at the end of the season, and popular models will be long gone. If the ski you liked best on demo day is an unpopular model, great, but there are lots of dogs out there.  Especially if you are looking in the mens 175 range instead of the 190+ range...

 

How much use on the demo matters too. My wife bought some S7W's demos last year from a shop in Durango at the end of a snow drought season. They had very minimal use- I would guess about 5 days on the snow. Nobody wanted to demo a powder ski in a year where DMR had essentially no powder days.  She paid around $250 with a mount of our bindings thrown in. I call that a good deal.

post #13 of 16

I have a friend who used to own a ski shop and he used to say that the first 20 days on a ski were it's best. I'm not so sure about that number but I do believe that after 100 days or so most skis are worn out,

 

Kastle skis, I've been told, are the exception and the extra $ that you pay for a Kastle translates into a longer lasting ski. I don't know if this is true but it certainly was for the extra premium priced Volkl skis form the 70s and 80s. I have a pair of Volkl Snow Rangers that have 300+ days on them and they still ski like they are new. Of course they take a tad (a large tad it there is such a thing) more effort to turn than today's skis but they still are crud busters.

 

With used skis, as long as they are not too old, the ski may get worn out long before the binding. So the ski might be ready for the dump but the binding can go on another ski.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by folkfan View Post
 

Around this time of year, ski resorts are trying to get rid of their stock including used demo skis.  Because of this, you can get skis for sometimes more than half off.  For example, I paid $350 for a pair of used Ross E88s including demo bindings.  I'm wondering how well ski like this hold their value.

 

What have people's experience been selling a ski during the next ski season?  Is it a safe bet that I could unload my skis for the price I acquired them?  I could imagine it would be fun, and not much of a financial risk this time of year, to acquire some ski gear, try them out the next ski season, and sell what doesn't jive with you IF it's likely to recoop the price paid. Thoughts?

 

I have yet to figure out how to time the stock market, but it is pretty easy to time the ski market. It's a buyer's market in May, June, & July and a seller's market Oct through March.  Buy your skis now, and if you don't like them after a season, wait until fall to sell them.

 

My last pair of skis were Volkl Tiger Shark 10', which were used Demo skis with demo bindings.  I bought them for $400 in May, skied on them for three seasons and sold them at a swap in the fall for $375. This was after closing the trunk on the tail of one ski and snipping off a two inch chunk from the corner.  The damage was just cosmetic, but still.

 

So, yeah, demo skis with demo bindings can hold their value.  Time it right and don't hold on too long.

post #15 of 16

Well I have definitely had luck buying used demos. Bought a pair of volk kendo's 2010 after the season for $350 w bindings (they were in great shape) sold them 2 years later for 200 on ebay and upgraded to the 2012/13 stockli stormrider 95 demo for 499 w bindings (ski's were in perfect shape when I got them). So in the past three years i spent about 650 and now have a superb ski that has plenty of life left in it. I definitely could not justify the price of a new stockli to the mrs. but spending 499 after getting 200 back definitely was easy enough to explain to the wife

post #16 of 16

First demos I bought were K2 812s bought from my ski school director for about $175 with regular S 737E bindings.  The second set of demos I bought were 192 cm Elan 999s bought three years ago also for $179 including bindings (Rossi/Look) AND shipping,  No core shots, not even a noticeable base scratch.  Pretty happy with that deal.

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