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The first powder chasing hostel on wheels: The Nomads Bus

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hi guys,

 

I don't know if you have heard of our project yet: The Nomads Bus, the first pow-chasing hostel on wheels..

 

Here is a good summary about the project on Whitelines with a video: http://whitelines.com/features/is-this-the-future-of-snowboard-holidays-a-powder-chasing-hostel-on-wheels.html

 

Hope you're as stoked as us and will join the bus during our first European winter tour from December 2014 to May 2015 or surfing Summer 2015.

 

Right now we're in the middle of our crowdfunding campaign, we need all the help we can get to get this beauty on the road so please check out the awesome perks on this page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-nomads-bus/x/873737#home

 

Hope to see you on the bus, share if you care!

 

Thanks,

 

Val Cook

 

post #2 of 14

Normally we don't allow the forums to be used for crowdfunding posts.  We'll give this a pass this time, but don't start multiple threads.  Good luck, hope you have a fun season.

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks! 

post #4 of 14

Don't get it.  Might be a nice "dream" for US based skiers but hire cars are cheap enough, far far more manoeuvreable on mountain passes and in narrow ski town streets and B&Bs, Guesthouses/pensions cheap and plentiful especially downvalley a few mins from resorts which will be far far more comfortable.  Plus what's your policy on weeding out douchebags from the bus?  One man's Flugel swilling fun guy is another's total tool.

post #5 of 14

This is actually one of the more pathetic crowdfunding attempts. This is not meant to bring a new product to market to kickstart a sustainable business model. This is pandering to get people to build you an RV.

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 

This is actually one of the more pathetic crowdfunding attempts. This is not meant to bring a new product to market to kickstart a sustainable business model. This is pandering to get people to build you an RV.


Alternative take: it's exactly what crowd funding is for.  No bank would give an "unsustainable" on the face of it business model a loan - so they raise financing from people who believe in the goal.

 

 

We already know that people pay $1000 a day for heliskiing (aka all powder all the time).  Paying $1500 for a week long, all inclusive, lift served, journey that nets me the best possible skiing in the region...  Doesn't sound so bad.

 

No more do I wonder "where in CO should I go?"  Now I just go to bed, wake up in wolf creek, and rake in the Pow.

 

 

Edit - Your group rents the ENTIRE bus for ~8k.

post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 


Alternative take: it's exactly what crowd funding is for.  No bank would give an "unsustainable" on the face of it business model a loan - so they raise financing from people who believe in the goal.

 

 

We already know that people pay $1000 a day for heliskiing (aka all powder all the time).  Paying $1500 for a week long, all inclusive, lift served, journey that nets me the best possible skiing in the region...  Doesn't sound so bad.

 

No more do I wonder "where in CO should I go?"  Now I just go to bed, wake up in wolf creek, and rake in the Pow.

 

 

Edit - Your group rents the ENTIRE bus for ~8k.

Imagine if you had this at Abasin? 

post #8 of 14

As an experienced RVer-Skier I'd say that there are enough red flags here to start a parade.

 

Why buy a school bus in the US and then incur the expense of shipping it to Europe? Don't they have suitable school or other buses in Europe that can be camperized?

 

20k Euros seems like too small of a budget even if they are doing the bus conversion themselves.

 

Far too few details concerning the actual amenities: what type of heater? Will it be propane or diesel or the wood stove shown in the pic and if so carrying fire wood takes up space and is heavy. Fresh water, gray water, sewage capacity has to substantial for 8-10 people and what steps are they planning in the design to prevent freeze up?

 

The size of the RV that they are planning to use could be a problem at some ski access roads or during heavy storms.

 

How many ski resorts in Europe allow overnight sleeping in parking lots in 12metre long vehicles?

 

Here is hoping that Val and Tim aren't the bus drivers.

post #9 of 14

They should hire DanoT as expert consultant.   Surely it makes more sense to buy a big all-wheel drive RV than have to install "fresh water, gray water, sewage capacity," etc. in a school bus.  

post #10 of 14
How do you drive a full sized American school bus in the Alps?

p92b_saint_gothard_pass_switzerland.jpg
Gothard Pass, SUI?
post #11 of 14
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They should hire DanoT as expert consultant.   Surely it makes more sense to buy a big all-wheel drive RV than have to install "fresh water, gray water, sewage capacity," etc. in a school bus.  

I know a British guy (a real person, not just an internet handle) who's working on getting an operation up in the US, targeting European skiers. And he's doing it exactly what DanoT suggests. Seems like that guy is a lot more thorough in his research and planning. 


I wonder if these people heard of that other plan and decide to do the reverse direction.

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I wonder if these people heard of that other plan and decide to do the reverse direction.

The concept is common, but the execution is very difficult.

I windsurfed the Gorge, 20 years ago with guys that we're doing this with a very high end OP.
It was a great experience, but they never made a dime and it was a very small geographical area.

Dano's right, these kids don't have a clue.
post #13 of 14

Val, look closely into what is required in vehicles on that side of the pond.  It could be a very expensive experience. On the flip side this is such an awesome way to do a ski safari. 

 

After a LOT of years in the high end motorhome business, I wish them good luck.  There are so many import and safety laws that differ between the States and European countries it will drive you to drink.  Doubt they would let it out of customs.  You really should look into this before you spend any more money on it.

 

A story, I was involved with from a distance, with little to do with the topic.  About 88 a couple of guys custom ordered a motor coach frm the company I worked for to send to Finland.  They were smugglers who bought it because of the hideable storage areas these motorhomes had;  they were smugglers getting bibles into USSR illegally (no christian love just greed).  Right after they got through Finish Customs and paid the duty the Russians started allowing religion again.  They never smuggled a load and lost a boat load of money.  Too bad for them.

 

Good luck, but be careful.

post #14 of 14
Well, have you seen "Winnebego Man"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSWUWPx2VeQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Warning, 85% F-bomb!
Actually, the documentary of the same name available on Amazon is quite good. It's about finding the guy in the video.
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