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April 26-27th at Sugarloaf, Maine

post #1 of 15
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It was a tough choice between Jay Peak and Sugarloaf last weekend. A more snowy forecast made us head to Maine, and it ended up a pretty good choice. Mixed precip Saturday afternoon was the only downer, but it turned to snow overnight down to teh base and made for an excellent Sunday as the weather slowly improved throughout the day. A chowda skiing day ;)

 

I was impressed by Sugarloaf. Even without the Summit open there was some fine advanced skiing off the Skyline chair, with excellent snow cover in the trees.  We need to go back in winter when everything is open.

 

Full report and pics at:

 

http://gortonator.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/late-spring-at-sugarloaf/

post #2 of 15

A lot of the trail names are based on logging. You said summit wasn't opened but it looked like you had a picture on the Timberline quad which does go to the summit. Did they only have the easy greens open from there? Looks like decent snow up there thought maybe something would be open like upper Narrow Gage or  Gondi line? Did you get some good bumps on Bubblecuffer, that is a great trail. Nice pictures and report.

post #3 of 15
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Timberline chair was closed - only Skyline went near peak. Bubblecuffer was a great fun. Serious bumps, windy, steep.

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Just got back from Loaf.  Only S quad was open today.  Lots of trails open today.  As per usual, Loaf figured out a way to Fuck up the best skiing in the East, by not having access to the top.  Skiing was fun anyways. 

post #5 of 15
I call that putting a lift on "bean counter hold". Happens all the time. I've noticed over the years - but especially since the recession - that wind hold incidence is in inverse proportion to the number of tickets sold on a given day.
post #6 of 15

Nice TR - we love the loaf but, have not been able to make the trek that far up. It looks like you had winter in late April! I know it snowed there the last weekend. Tomorrow I think we head to Sugarbush for their final weekend. 

post #7 of 15
Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

I call that putting a lift on "bean counter hold". Happens all the time. I've noticed over the years - but especially since the recession - that wind hold incidence is in inverse proportion to the number of tickets sold on a given day.

 

I suspect that your theory is true.  Brings to mind a chairlift conversation I had this winter with a "Old timer"  We got to the top of Timberline and he points over to the west and says "that peak has the highest recorded wind speed on the planet."   Referring to Mt Washington.  So I guess I should be happy I'm at all skiing.  Good point. 

post #8 of 15
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I call that putting a lift on "bean counter hold". 

Not only an eastern phenomenon.  On late spring powder days at Snowbird the tram line can fill the maze and back out into the plaza, yet they will rarely open Peruvian or Gadzoom to relieve it.  This is particularly obnoxious because all the other Utah areas are closed and they are getting good day ticket revenue from local passholders at other areas.  I'm not saying these lifts should run every day, but it's not rocket science to look at the weather forecasts and figure out when it's going to be busy. 

 

I've heard grumblings from Squaw locals about similar idle lifts on busy weekends or powder days this season.

 

Mammoth anticipates its spring crowds and usually opens extra lifts when needed, even though 2/3 to 3/4 of the late season business is from their own season passholders.


Edited by Tony Crocker - 5/1/14 at 10:25pm
post #9 of 15

As a skier, of course I wish ALL the lifts are spinning and no lines outsides of the holiday time. But the reality is it cost man power and electricity to run each and every lift. And they must keep the lift running even on days when there's only 6 skier on the whole darn mountain...as in today at Sugarloaf!

 

It was windy and raining. Snow was soft and creamy, pure delight. But everyone, including one of my buddy, decided not going up (free, comp ticket) because he believe it would be miserable. So there were but 6 of us, that's it, all morning. How many days will be like that? I think tomorrow will be another such days. 

 

Obviously, they're not making money on the 6 of us today (not the mention all the eateries were closed anyway). So the money needs to come from the rest of the season. Anyone volunteer to pay extra to "sponsor" us skiing end of season week? 

 

In any case, you already did that this season. So thanks, from me. 

post #10 of 15


I've always assumed that the "extra" came from the annual increase of the season passes. 

post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post
 

Not only an eastern phenomenon.  

Or a US one...

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

I call that putting a lift on "bean counter hold". Happens all the time. I've noticed over the years - but especially since the recession - that wind hold incidence is in inverse proportion to the number of tickets sold on a given day.

Agreed. This phenomenon reinforces my theory that the real motivation to stay open into May is for bragging rights. If it really was for the skiing, they would run just one more lift, Timberline, from which you can access the entire mountain from the summit, including the back snowfields which is treasured and storied terrain.

On the other end of the season, Sugarloaf will call itself open for gravel pit skiing.

Still, I love that hill, and just dropped about $1400 for two passes.

D1

post #13 of 15


Speaking of bragging rights, anybody get up to the top of Burnt mtn?  If so what did you think?

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How bout the new backside?  "Hells gate?" 

post #15 of 15
Nope. Neither. The days the Gathering was there the off piste was too firm, among other reasons.
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