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Hi my name's Kogu спракэр and I like to ski and snowboard and go for long slides down hills with sticks on my feet! (disclaimer: I don't like the beach)

 

 

The stoke is high for next season.

 

(I apologize ahead of time for my terrible taste in music..)

 

Enjoy and stuff!


Edited by Kogu - 4/24/14 at 2:41am
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Kogu, nice skiing. Well filmed and produced. Thanks for sharing. Where are you from and at what ski resort did you make the video? You did not say what your intentions were posting the video. Feedback or just for show?

post #3 of 21

   Ya, that's a nice vid Codi! Great camera work--is Silver done for good now?

 

    zenny

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Kogu, nice skiing. Well filmed and produced. Thanks for sharing. Where are you from and at what ski resort did you make the video? You did not say what your intentions were posting the video. Feedback or just for show?


I'm from the PNW, Silver Mountain specifically. This was just one run I had my friend film me down and then we switched the next run (I haven't finished the video for his run yet).

 

Feedback on everything and anything is always welcome! I made the video mostly as a reference to see where I was at now.. just a snapshot of my skiing to look at. I tried dangling a mirror out on a pole to see myself skiing but that ended up not being an effective tactic. ;P

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   Ya, that's a nice vid Codi! Great camera work--is Silver done for good now?

 

    zenny


Day after tomorrow is currently labelled as the last day. Hopefully we'll be getting another 5-6 inches this weekend with the way it's been raining over here. :)

post #6 of 21
Someone's obsessed with a certain movie...
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Someone's obsessed with a certain movie...


What movie?

post #8 of 21
Yeah, I have no idea what Thomas is talking about th_dunno-1[1].gif

zenny
post #9 of 21
Thank you for a video without a go pro POV from the end of a ski pole! smile.gif

Kogu, post exams (and congrats!) what are your goals for your skiing? What do you want to do better? Who inspires you?
post #10 of 21
@Kogu @zentune Your opening post Kogu sounded very similar to what Olaf from Frozen says.
post #11 of 21
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Thank you for a video without a go pro POV from the end of a ski pole! smile.gif

Kogu, post exams (and congrats!) what are your goals for your skiing? What do you want to do better? Who inspires you?

I uh.. those um.. yeah the very next video in the playlist is exactly that.. a camera on a stick... I'm sorry.
 

Right now I've got a couple of years before the Tech Team tryouts.. next season I'll be assistant TD which will allow me to visit the Technical Series in the area so that should be huge for my development and understanding and I'm very excited to be a part of that!

 

Thank you! In terms of what I want to do.. well, I want to stop sucking quite so much.. but also I want to help my Snowsports School to improve in a more active way. And for me to start learning to ski at a professional level (that is, in my eyes, what the L3 indicates). I've been watching a lot of the Canadian L4s and I really enjoy Eric Lipton's skiing. I had the opportunity to meet him during a Chris Fellows clinic up at Schweitzer this season (which was awesome).

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@Kogu @zentune Your opening post Kogu sounded very similar to what Olaf from Frozen says.


Ohhh really? Haha no actually I do that to my students sometimes in a very exuberant way when I meet them if they're looking nervous (generally with teenagers). Tends to break the ice in a positive way. I've only seen Frozen like.. twice? and it was awhile ago. I do like that movie though. Honestly I've never been good at movie references.

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Feedback on everything and anything is always welcome! I made the video mostly as a reference to see where I was at now.. just a snapshot of my skiing to look at. I tried dangling a mirror out on a pole to see myself skiing but that ended up not being an effective tactic. ;P

Since you asked, (nice turns by the way) i didn't watch with a real critical eye nor did I try to do MA in the traditional sense however something kept appearing almost all yor different types of turns... That is, a slight stem when making right turns. It's slight in most cases but it's there. Much more pronounced on those right turns and more pronounced in slower turns. What's interesting is for many people, speed makes this disappear. In your case it diminishes but often still there. A few places where the snow looked a little chunckier, it did seem to get a little worse.
post #14 of 21
Second look. It's almost like you are slightly oversteering the left foot as you approach the fall line.injury? Or alignment? Maybe too much concentration on the "inside half" causing a lazy "outside" ?
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@Kogu @zentune Your opening post Kogu sounded very similar to what Olaf from Frozen says.

? ... Oh... Frozen.... Haven't seen it. Maybe they haven't either, which explains why everyone's (at least me for sure) is slow on the uptake. smile.gif

Kogu, dead serious about the go pro POV... I think people do this by and large because there's not much to film skier wise. wink.gif

I really like the Canadian stuff as well. There's a dynamic to it that lacks somewhat in PSIA stuff. So quick question. Have you had any work done on your left boot alignment wise?
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Second look. It's almost like you are slightly oversteering the left foot as you approach the fall line.injury? Or alignment? Maybe too much concentration on the "inside half" causing a lazy "outside" ?


You're definitely reading that correctly. :p

One of my biggest focuses this season has been overcoming the alignment of my right leg, so your statement of "over-concentration on the inside half" during my right turns is 100% accurate. Actually I pointed it out to my friend the VERY next chairlift ride as the run I'd just done the MRs on in the video is right under the chair. The top of the right turns has a smearing of the inside ski. (less obvious in MA in those turns, but more obvious in the tracks)

 

 

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? ... Oh... Frozen.... Haven't seen it. Maybe they haven't either, which explains why everyone's (at least me for sure) is slow on the uptake. smile.gif

Kogu, dead serious about the go pro POV... I think people do this by and large because there's not much to film skier wise. wink.gif

I really like the Canadian stuff as well. There's a dynamic to it that lacks somewhat in PSIA stuff. So quick question. Have you had any work done on your left boot alignment wise?

 

I just don't like to inconvenience other people by asking them to film me.. I always feel guilty. :P

 

and I agree, even the Interski videos pretty much showed that the Canadian Demonstrators were just skiing way faster and harder than the American Demonstrators. Not to say we have a bad D-Team or anything like that, just that the content online usually shows the Canadians filming themselves skiing much more aggressively. Sean Warman has some good videos of PSIA D-Team members ripping hard, though.

 

I did actually have some boot work done this season, though only once.. as he left town and I haven't taken the time to find anyone else who I trust as much yet. What we found was that I am quite  knock-knee'd. My left knee was inward about 3 degrees and my right knee was inward.. it was either 9 or 11 degrees.. My boots are the Tecnica Cochise 120s, and he added material under the sole to try and straighten me out. It worked wonderfully! Though now I feel like I need to back off of that focus, as it's causing me different problems on the other end of the spectrum.

post #17 of 21
Kogu, for the sake of clarity, rather than 'left' or 'right' turn, can you use left or right footed turn? Anyhow, on your left footed shorter radius turn (left foot outside) there's a bit of a push off and edge engagement happens largely at and just below the fall line. Your right foot turn looks like you have more consistent engagement though the turn. You look a bit under edged which was why I was asking about alignment. I'd agree on what looks to be kind of an over emphasis on your 'strong inside' half. I'm kind of in the school that there's another issue going on that we're trying to solve with the inside half rather than getting to the root of the problem, which in your case as you've said, is dealing with alignment mods... It takes a lot of effort and mileage to overcome the vestigial movement patterns as strong skiers are also powerfully good compensators. That's a compliment, and I'd be the pot calling the kettle black if I haven't been through the same myself. smile.gif What's interesting is how different width skis effect the equation.

And just curious, what are your 'go to' drills when you're working on your skiing? Do you run any gates? All in all, very nice skiing. I'd say just turn it up to 11 for the camera a bit a la the Canadians....
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Kogu, for the sake of clarity, rather than 'left' or 'right' turn, can you use left or right footed turn? Anyhow, on your left footed shorter radius turn (left foot outside) there's a bit of a push off and edge engagement happens largely at and just below the fall line. Your right foot turn looks like you have more consistent engagement though the turn. You look a bit under edged which was why I was asking about alignment. I'd agree on what looks to be kind of an over emphasis on your 'strong inside' half. I'm kind of in the school that there's another issue going on that we're trying to solve with the inside half rather than getting to the root of the problem, which in your case as you've said, is dealing with alignment mods... It takes a lot of effort and mileage to overcome the vestigial movement patterns as strong skiers are also powerfully good compensators. That's a compliment, and I'd be the pot calling the kettle black if I haven't been through the same myself. smile.gif What's interesting is how different width skis effect the equation.

And just curious, what are your 'go to' drills when you're working on your skiing? Do you run any gates? All in all, very nice skiing. I'd say just turn it up to 11 for the camera a bit a la the Canadians....

This is what I saw as well. More prominent the tighter the turn Kogu was making. It was also more prominent when the conditions got worse, or the speed slowed down (requiring a little more precision)

 

Agreed overall nice turns. Also agreed that the problem is not the inside half but more learning to trust that outside ski to hook up, and guiding it patiently onto its edge before pressuring it instead of trying to jam it on to an edge.

 

If the alignment is off (under edged on the left foot) and you are trying too hard to get it on an edge quickly, you may be introducing some internal femur rotation causing that separation and push out..

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Kogu, for the sake of clarity, rather than 'left' or 'right' turn, can you use left or right footed turn? Anyhow, on your left footed shorter radius turn (left foot outside) there's a bit of a push off and edge engagement happens largely at and just below the fall line. Your right foot turn looks like you have more consistent engagement though the turn. You look a bit under edged which was why I was asking about alignment. I'd agree on what looks to be kind of an over emphasis on your 'strong inside' half. I'm kind of in the school that there's another issue going on that we're trying to solve with the inside half rather than getting to the root of the problem, which in your case as you've said, is dealing with alignment mods... It takes a lot of effort and mileage to overcome the vestigial movement patterns as strong skiers are also powerfully good compensators. That's a compliment, and I'd be the pot calling the kettle black if I haven't been through the same myself. smile.gif What's interesting is how different width skis effect the equation.

And just curious, what are your 'go to' drills when you're working on your skiing? Do you run any gates? All in all, very nice skiing. I'd say just turn it up to 11 for the camera a bit a la the Canadians....

But Mark, I use both of my feet when I make turns!! ;p

 

I have one more day this season (being tomorrow) and I've already cleared my camera and am charging it presently. I'm hoping that with the rain outside that it's going to firm everything up on the Northern face tonight, and if so, I'll have a much more conducive condition for skiing aggressively. That slope I was on (after the off-piste) was a VERY modest blue. buut we were trying to make the most of the time (I might have forgotten the camera at lunch and ran back in for it like 30 minutes before lifts closed.. time flies when you're having fun) and it just happened that's where we were when I handed the camera over. I'll try to get something with a little less friction and a little more direct gravitational pull tomorrow!

If you go to.. the 3rd video in that playlist, there's a short video of myself at Schweitzer with a little different focus from earlier in the year.. (granted it's mostly on a cat-track again.. I was mostly concerned about watching myself in the off-piste section). It is mostly un-edited though..

 

To answer your question about drills.. if I'm completely honest, I don't do drills.. or I don't think I do. I have some "focuses" that I absolutely will consider when I'm skiing.. but I just about never do drills in the strict sense of the word. One ski skiing on cat tracks going back to the lift..? Leapers..? Uphill carves to air rotations..? Oh yknow I guess I do actually do Railroad Tracks every single morning getting to the lift, focusing on knee angulation through leg steering. but again, that's entirely right-leg focused. or on the left-footers.

 

I have done GS gates and slalom...... brushies?? stubs..? Idk what they're called.. but I did that briefly.

 

 

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This is what I saw as well. More prominent the tighter the turn Kogu was making. It was also more prominent when the conditions got worse, or the speed slowed down (requiring a little more precision)

 

Agreed overall nice turns. Also agreed that the problem is not the inside half but more learning to trust that outside ski to hook up, and guiding it patiently onto its edge before pressuring it instead of trying to jam it on to an edge.

 

If the alignment is off (under edged on the left foot) and you are trying too hard to get it on an edge quickly, you may be introducing some internal femur rotation causing that separation and push out..

The "internal femural rotation" is again, dead-on based on what I feel. I've always been a very two-footed skier and so it would absolutely make sense that if my entire goal in life was to project the right half of my body downhill at the initiation, that surely I would either a) have to catch myself after the fall line, or b) pressure the ski through a push to keep it bent and turning through the top of the arc.

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Ohhh really? Haha no actually I do that to my students sometimes in a very exuberant way when I meet them if they're looking nervous (generally with teenagers). Tends to break the ice in a positive way. I've only seen Frozen like.. twice? and it was awhile ago. I do like that movie though. Honestly I've never been good at movie references.

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? ... Oh... Frozen.... Haven't seen it. Maybe they haven't either, which explains why everyone's (at least me for sure) is slow on the uptake. smile.gif

Kogu, dead serious about the go pro POV... I think people do this by and large because there's not much to film skier wise. wink.gif

I really like the Canadian stuff as well. There's a dynamic to it that lacks somewhat in PSIA stuff. So quick question. Have you had any work done on your left boot alignment wise?
It's possible that it was just at the forefront of my mind, my cousins have been watching it in an alternating cycle with 'Tinkerbell' for several days.

In any case, great videos, and I very much agree about the whole POV thing.
post #21 of 21

Nice turns Kogu.

 

Lots of good things going on.  I really like the angulation you generate as you get you feet out wide in the short turns, nice and round with good rhythm.

 

Quit upper body, solid hands which means a crisp snappy pole plant (key).  It looks to me like you focus on floating your chest smoothly down the fall line as your feet get out wide. I ask this because it's what I do and when I watch your short turns it looks familiar in ways.

 

I've only skied Silver once, but I think I know the pitch, a few shots at Schweitzer get some pitch ( short and sweet).  Do you have any video in those steeper shots?

 

I'd like to see those short turns in steeper terrain and  bumps.  Do they get tighter in those pitches?  If they do, you should be able to turn anywhere you'd like and next season should be good!

 

Nail

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