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post #1 of 16
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Hi, i'm starting to plan our 2015 ski trip. We (wife, 3 teens and me) used to ski in the US between 14 and 20 days every February. We have been in Taos (twice), Aspen/Highlands/Snowmass (twice), Jackson Hole, Alta/Snowbird and Deer Valley.
Our plan was to go to Vail next year. I think we have to go there at least once. However, I realized that during the first week of February (a week that must be part of our trip due to working reasons) the Fis World Championship is going to take place at Vail.
So my question to the group are:
Does the W Championship is going to affect the mountain (people, prices, etc) so much that is better going to other place and leaving Vail for another year?
If the answer to the first question is yes, which other place (not visited yet) is worth considering for a 15 days trip.

Whistler is, in principle, out of question because is too far away from Argentina.


Thanks in advance
post #2 of 16
I don't know, but the events are relatively confined to small areas (birds of prey at beaver Creek and Golden Peak at Vail). I think you can plan your skiing around the events and minimize the impact on your mountain fun. Vail expects that the world championships will fill up lodging and dining but it probably won't be worse than Christmas or spring break.

Here's the schedule of events. http://vailbeavercreek2015.com/race/

Mike
post #3 of 16

Unless you are really into the race scene, I wouldn't recommend going during the World Championships.  It will be incredibly busy,  at one of the most crowded resorts in the US.

post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by TanoB View Post

Whistler is, in principle, out of question because is too far away from Argentina.
 

???  This is one odd statement. It looks like the difference in travel time would be about 2 hours or less given a direct flight to Denver/Vancouver.  When you're coming from as far away as Argentina and spending two weeks, it's minimal.  There are probably other reasons not to go to Whistler, but that one is really quite puzzling.

 

I don't know this, but I would suspect that total travel time to Jackson, where you have been before, is more than to Whistler.

post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks hamacomike and shredhead. I think I will leave Vail for another year. So that leaves me with the other question.

From all the places I went before in the US I think that Aspen/Snowmass was the one it fits better for us. It has some challenging terrain (I not considered myself really an expert, we do enjoy double blacks, bumps, ungroomed terrain more than groomed), different mountains for a two weeks trip and a nice town to walk, restaurants, etc. Not that we do a lot of nightlife, but we enjoy going to a nice restaurants a couple of nights. For example, that’s the only thing I missed at Alta.

One of the options we are considering in going to Telluride, but not sure if 2 weeks will be too much. The other one is Big Ski. But haven’t done a lot of research yet.

Posaune, unfortunately I don’t think we have a direct flight from Buenos Aires to Denver. I have to go either via Miami, Dallas, Atlanta or NY. But yours is a fair statement. I’ll check the flight time from Dallas to Whistler.

Thanks to all

post #6 of 16
Big Sky is definitely harder to get to.
post #7 of 16
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Big Sky is definitely harder to get to.

At one point, Delta announced they would have more direct flights from Atlanta to Bozeman.  But not sure that will include the winter season.

 

However, if having a village or town for evening and other activities then Big Sky is less of a draw.  Then again, for a two week trip, staying in Bozeman and skiing Bridger for a few days before going to Big Sky can make for a good vacation.  Yellowstone is a day trip from Big Sky.

post #8 of 16

TanoB:

 

Have you tried Europe?  

post #9 of 16

Save your money and try Argentina in say Sep:DJ/K

 

But seriously you should consider Lake Tahoe if you'll have a car (although Squaw/Alpine is a nice combo without a car and should satisfy you for two weeks), Whistler or Sunshine/Lake Louise if flights would work for you and lastly Big Sky which you mentioned.

post #10 of 16

I love Big Sky,  There is a ton of terrain.  But I think it might be a bit isolated for 2 weeks.

 

Of course, you could do 5 days in Yellowstone National Park staying at the Snow lodge with the rest at Big Sky.  That'd be a tremendous adventure.

 

The West Yellowstone entrance is about 45 miles from Big Sky.  You'd want to stay at the Snow Lodge at Old Faithful.  You will need to arrange transport from West Yellowstone to Old Faithful yourself -- Xanterra, the park concessionaire, no longer operates a snow coach from West Yellowstione.  There are several tour companies that will take you from West Yellowstone to Old Faithful -- it's not cheap, but it is a snow coach and an adventure!

 

It will take half a day to get from West Yellowstone to the Snow Lodge (and vice versa).  There are several tours that the concessionaire organizes.  We did the photography tour (full day) and the Canyon snowshoe (also a full day).  Both were excellent and you get to see many animals, thermal features, and incredible scenery in the park.  Yellowstone is a treasure and absolutely spectacular in winter, not the least of why is because no one is there.  Old Faithful is one of the premier nordic skiing areas in North America.  You can ski from the lodge.  They rent skis and snowshoes.  They also provide incredibly inexpensive and high quality nordic ski instruction.

 

You can get direct air service from a number of US gateways to Bozeman.  Here's the page with info for last ski season.http://bigskyresort.com/plan-a-trip/how-to-get-here/airlines-and-direct-flights

 

You'd probably want to rent a car for the duration you are here.  You can usually get a pretty inexpensive rental for a week (or more) at Bozemen.  A car will allow you to drive to Big Sky (45 miles from Bozeman), to West Yellowstone, to Buck's T-8 restaurant for dinner (highly recommended) and into Bozeman to visit Bridger for a bit more variety in skiing.

 

Also, you should definitely hire Ursula Howland of the Big Sky Ski School as a guide/instructor.  She'll get you the goods, sort the terrain for you, give some excellent instruction, and be a fine friend.

 

Mike

post #11 of 16

+1 for the above.  Yellowstone in winter is a lifetime experience not to be missed.  Hang the travel time and hang the expense.  However, if what the OP wants is a big resort experience, Yellowstone isn't it.  It's unbelievably incredible, but there are none of the shops, restaurants, and citified entertainment of the destination places.  It's comfortable, but that's it.

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

TanoB:

Have you tried Europe?  

yes, one year we went to St. Anton and Zermatt. It's a posibility, but my experince was that if you really want to have fun and go off-piste, you need to hire a guide and that's expensive. Otherwise, you are taking a lot of risks. In the states, I enjoy this system of the gates within the boundary area.

If I weere to go to Europe, the place would be Tignes/ Val d' siere.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jgiddyup View Post

Save your money and try Argentina in say Sep:D J/K

But seriously you should consider Lake Tahoe if you'll have a car (although Squaw/Alpine is a nice combo without a car and should satisfy you for two weeks), Whistler or Sunshine/Lake Louise if flights would work for you and lastly Big Sky which you mentioned.

I do some skiing in winter here. However, I think is the other way around. Letting aside the flight fare (that I usually use milles) in term of what you get, it's much cheaper US than South America.

Lake Tahoe does not call me. maybe I'm wrong but I thing that quality of snow is not as dry as in the rockies. on the other hand, mammoth may be in my list
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post

I love Big Sky,  There is a ton of terrain.  But I think it might be a bit isolated for 2 weeks.

Of course, you could do 5 days in Yellowstone National Park staying at the Snow lodge with the rest at Big Sky.  That'd be a tremendous adventure.

The West Yellowstone entrance is about 45 miles from Big Sky.  You'd want to stay at the Snow Lodge at Old Faithful.  You will need to arrange transport from West Yellowstone to Old Faithful yourself -- Xanterra, the park concessionaire, no longer operates a snow coach from West Yellowstione.  There are several tour companies that will take you from West Yellowstone to Old Faithful -- it's not cheap, but it is a snow coach and an adventure!

It will take half a day to get from West Yellowstone to the Snow Lodge (and vice versa).  There are several tours that the concessionaire organizes.  We did the photography tour (full day) and the Canyon snowshoe (also a full day).  Both were excellent and you get to see many animals, thermal features, and incredible scenery in the park.  Yellowstone is a treasure and absolutely spectacular in winter, not the least of why is because no one is there.  Old Faithful is one of the premier nordic skiing areas in North America.  You can ski from the lodge.  They rent skis and snowshoes.  They also provide incredibly inexpensive and high quality nordic ski instruction.

You can get direct air service from a number of US gateways to Bozeman.  Here's the page with info for last ski season.http://bigskyresort.com/plan-a-trip/how-to-get-here/airlines-and-direct-flights

You'd probably want to rent a car for the duration you are here.  You can usually get a pretty inexpensive rental for a week (or more) at Bozemen.  A car will allow you to drive to Big Sky (45 miles from Bozeman), to West Yellowstone, to Buck's T-8 restaurant for dinner (highly recommended) and into Bozeman to visit Bridger for a bit more variety in skiing.

Also, you should definitely hire Ursula Howland of the Big Sky Ski School as a guide/instructor.  She'll get you the goods, sort the terrain for you, give some excellent instruction, and be a fine friend.

Mike
Thanks for the Yellowstone data, I will investigate.
And to everybody for the replies
post #15 of 16
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Posaune, I'm finally following your advise and going to Whistler next winter. Thank you
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by TanoB View Post

Posaune, I'm finally following your advise and going to Whistler next winter. Thank you


I'm sorry.  But have fun.

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