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post #31 of 59
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For what you're describing I'd say the Vagabond.  

The tip and tail rocker is enough to ski powder beautifully but its still got enough of a camber and low(er) tail profile to be a fun ski when you hit the groomers at the end of the day. 

 

I took my Wildfire (women's version of Vagabond) to Colorado back in February for my one ski quiver.    It was a great choice considering the amount of snow they had and was still easy enough to ski when we had a "no freshies" day. 

 

Thanks!  I am sold on the Vagabonds.  Great ski and with the bindings it is a smoking good deal for a new pair.  :D

post #32 of 59

Trigger pulled on the Vagabond 185s with STH bindings.  Did some reviews and got the 10% off coupon and saved myself another $50 on already incredible price.  :D

post #33 of 59
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Trigger pulled on the Vagabond 185s with STH bindings.  Did some reviews and got the 10% off coupon and saved myself another $50 on already incredible price.  :D

Cah-ching. Congrats on a great set up. 

post #34 of 59

Been considering buying the Hells Belles (which you've run out of) -- but I believe the Steadfast is the same ski? I've just been on Nordica's website and a customer service person has recommended me the Hells Belles in 178 (which nobody seems to have anyway). Would it necessarily follow that the Steadfast in that length (which you do still have, by the looks of it) is the right length for me? (5ft 8 1/2, 176lbs, middle-aged female, advanced skier, sometimes aggressive, sometimes a bit lazy, but working on skills on hardpack/groomers).

post #35 of 59

The difference between the Hells Belles and Steadfast is the difference between iCore and WiCore.  

WiCore is slightly softer and slightly lighter.  

post #36 of 59
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Been considering buying the Hells Belles (which you've run out of) -- but I believe the Steadfast is the same ski? I've just been on Nordica's website and a customer service person has recommended me the Hells Belles in 178 (which nobody seems to have anyway). Would it necessarily follow that the Steadfast in that length (which you do still have, by the looks of it) is the right length for me? (5ft 8 1/2, 176lbs, middle-aged female, advanced skier, sometimes aggressive, sometimes a bit lazy, but working on skills on hardpack/groomers).

I have a pair of 178 or 179 Helle's belles with Marker Griffons that I am willing to sell for $375 plus shipping. Used twice. Great skis but like my Nemesis more.
post #37 of 59
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Been considering buying the Hells Belles (which you've run out of) -- but I believe the Steadfast is the same ski? I've just been on Nordica's website and a customer service person has recommended me the Hells Belles in 178 (which nobody seems to have anyway). Would it necessarily follow that the Steadfast in that length (which you do still have, by the looks of it) is the right length for me? (5ft 8 1/2, 176lbs, middle-aged female, advanced skier, sometimes aggressive, sometimes a bit lazy, but working on skills on hardpack/groomers).
I'm your size. I always ski on men's skis.
post #38 of 59
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I'm your size. I always ski on men's skis.

Yeah, I generally tend to as well, though if manufacturers are going to go to the bother of making women's skis for someone my height/weight, and everything else aligns, then I'm happy to support them.

post #39 of 59

Christmas in June! 

 

post #40 of 59
Thread Starter 

Still lots of great options in the Nordica blems, as well as some Armada closeouts and other goodies in the Outlet if you haven't taken a look in a while...

starthaus.com/outlet.html

post #41 of 59

Hey @Philpug,

 

I've got an A-basin on a desert island question for you if you are game:

 

Which of the blem package deal skis would you take to A-basin for the month of May in a horrible alternate universe where you could pick just one?

 

http://starthaus.com/outlet.html?cat=196

 

Thanks!

post #42 of 59

You should buy all three. 

post #43 of 59
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You should buy all three. 

 

Come on, that's NOT how you play the desert island game!  

 

I'd love to other folks opinions too... as long as you stick to the rules!!!

post #44 of 59
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Come on, that's NOT how you play the desert island game!  

 

I'd love to other folks opinions too... as long as you stick to the rules!!!

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/119311/review-2014-nordica-vagabond

 

That helped my choice.

post #45 of 59
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Hey @Philpug,

 

I've got an A-basin on a desert island question for you if you are game:

 

Which of the blem package deal skis would you take to A-basin for the month of May in a horrible alternate universe where you could pick just one?

 

http://starthaus.com/outlet.html?cat=196

 

Thanks!

El Capo in a 177

post #46 of 59
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Hey @Philpug,

 

I've got an A-basin on a desert island question for you if you are game:

 

Which of the blem package deal skis would you take to A-basin for the month of May in a horrible alternate universe where you could pick just one?

 

http://starthaus.com/outlet.html?cat=196

 

Thanks!

El Capo in a 177

 

Thanks Phil!  I'm glad I asked, cause that's not what I was thinking.

 

Let me see if I can guess at your thinking.   You really like the 185 Vagabond in your review, but it might be too soft for spring slush and coral reef.   You're thinking the 177 El Capo vs the 185 because the shorter ski would be better for A-basin's bumps and trees.   Am I close?

 

Most importantly, is the 177 El Capo actually a good choice for May at A-basin, or just one I forced you to make because I'm cheap? ;) 

post #47 of 59
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

Hey @Philpug,

 

I've got an A-basin on a desert island question for you if you are game:

 

Which of the blem package deal skis would you take to A-basin for the month of May in a horrible alternate universe where you could pick just one?

 

http://starthaus.com/outlet.html?cat=196

 

Thanks!

El Capo in a 177

 

Thanks Phil!  I'm glad I asked, cause that's not what I was thinking.

 

Let me see if I can guess at your thinking.   You really like the 185 Vagabond in your review, but it might be too soft for spring slush and coral reef.   You're thinking the 177 El Capo vs the 185 because the shorter ski would be better for A-basin's bumps and trees.   Am I close?

 

Most importantly, is the 177 El Capo actually a good choice for May at A-basin, or just one I forced you to make because I'm cheap? ;) 

It is because you are cheap. I would rather stay around 100mm max, I had the most fun this spring on the NRGy100, Bonafide and new Mantra. 

post #48 of 59

Hey guys, I'm going to need to borrow a magnifying glass because I think I'll need one in order to see the so-called cosmetic defect on my new pair of "Blemish" skis.

post #49 of 59
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Most importantly, is the 177 El Capo actually a good choice for May at A-basin, or just one I forced you to make because I'm cheap? ;) 

It is because you are cheap. I would rather stay around 100mm max, I had the most fun this spring on the NRGy100, Bonafide and new Mantra. 

 

Cheapo back again... that El Capo still has me interested after reading @Josh Matta's review of the 185:

http://www.epicski.com/t/127606/nordica-el-capo-185-some-camber-is-a-good-thing

 

Josh, I was actually thinking of that day we skied together at A-basin for this ski.  I was on Steadfasts.  You were on Patrons.  Seems something in between would have been best (Nordica, of course :rolleyes).  You were on the right ski one run, then I was the next, since it changed so much run to run.  I think you mentioned you would have preferred to be on your Soul Riders but didn't bring them?  That would jibe with Phil's 100mm max, which was what I was also thinking.  The old Mantra used to be my goto ski for a day like that.

 

But... those El Capos are a really great deal, look sweet, and I love the STH2 binding.  I'll also try to find other uses for them too beyond May at A-basin :D

 

Josh, do you think you would have enjoyed the 177 El Capo that day at A-basin?

post #50 of 59
Thread Starter 

Price update, the remaining Vagabond & El Capo blems are down to $299 now!

 

http://starthaus.com/2014-nordica-vagabond-ski-blem.html​

 

http://starthaus.com/2014-nordica-el-capo-ski-blem.html​

post #51 of 59
Any advice on a ski comparable to the Hells Belles 162? I can ski longer but love the size and stay under 170 for bumps and trees. Looking for a set to keep East Coast while the Belles stay out West... Of course if there are any Belles...
post #52 of 59
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Any advice on a ski comparable to the Hells Belles 162? I can ski longer but love the size and stay under 170 for bumps and trees. Looking for a set to keep East Coast while the Belles stay out West... Of course if there are any Belles...


Hi @Em9363 , 

Are you looking for something a little narrower for the East Coast or in the same basic size? 

 

It looks like they are out of all the women's skis in the Hells Belles category in the blem sale, but they have some really good options on the current ski wall.   

The Line Soulmate 90 may be a good option and will be super fun in the bumps and trees. 

post #53 of 59

Big bump here. They're dumping Vagabond and El Capo blems for $199. Both are great skis with the Vagabond being the saner choice for most forum members. I have the Vagabond in 185cm and just picked them up in 177cm....can't have too many at that price.

post #54 of 59

2 sizes in the same ski?!  Wow.  What's your weight/height for those sizes?

post #55 of 59

5' 11", 185#. The 185cm are the more politically correct size but there are times at Bridger when the best snow is guarded by large moguls in the narrows & I wish I had a shorter ski. 

post #56 of 59

The Vagabond is a ski I've been seriously considering.  At my size (6'2", 185lbs) I'm thinking the 185.  Sadly, they're sold out. Awesome deal though for anyone who wants a 177.

post #57 of 59
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The Vagabond is a ski I've been seriously considering.  At my size (6'2", 185lbs) I'm thinking the 185.  Sadly, they're sold out. Awesome deal though for anyone who wants a 177.

I'm your size, I own the El Capo in the 177. Its a bit stiff, but it skis great at that size despite that it has a ton of early rise to it. the 185 El Cap would be way too much for our size at that length (i even demoed it at that size). Yes the Vagabond is softer, but if you were okay with it being a more nimble ski I personally would have no hesitation skiing it in a 177. Just thought I'd throw that out there. YMMV.

post #58 of 59

Now that you mention it, good points Lemon.  I may need to rethink this......am very tempted, but the last 2 times I bought skis without demo'ing I sold them right away.  Gonna demo a bunch next week at Steamboat.  Doubt I'll find any Vagabonds to demo since they're essentially discontinued.

 

I've already got a beefy, stiff ski in my Rossi E98s.  But I'm still deciding if I want to add a wider and softer ski to my quiver like the Vagabond that doesn't need to be full gas like the E98s, or get a ski which require less work (ie-NRGY 100, Ranger 98, etc) to replace my E98s.

post #59 of 59

So any sneak peeks at this summer's blems?  I'll start saving now.

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