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post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post


If you're talking about the FA 84 EDT, think 84mm race ski. It's a machine that needs a skilled pilot to really make work well. Its a quiver compliment to a Mantra, not a replacement. And no, its not a park and relax ski.

pretty good description.. When I worked and got it on edge it really performed well but I found it took alot of the fun out of it for me..  I lie a ski that I can relax on and push it when I need to.. The Brahmas definitely want to make shorter turns when our not pushing them but I found if I really lay into them I can lay pretty nice RR tracks... I find the bonifides float abit better and want longer turns,, They are very stable until you start really pushng into race speeds... They start to feel a  little chatterly then, but stil hold and carver beautifully.. I gues its about learning the feel and how to get the most out of each ski... That only comes with familiarity..  Whats great for one person may really suck for another..

post #32 of 53

So the season's winding down. I gifted my 13 year old my Chams and decided to demo a different pair of skis on Saturday--a beautiful fresh powder day in May. Hallelujah!

 

The demo shop was picked clean but I asked for a pair of Brahmas all the same. I really wanted to try them again. The guy goes in back and has a bit of a rummage and then comes out to tell me they're out of Brahmas. Not terribly surprising. 

 

"I guess I'll have some Rosssignol E98s?" I say. Having heard good things.

 

So he dives back in and politely returns with a pair of 97mm Chams. "I really think you should try these".

 

I had a bit of a chuckle and said all-knowing like "Son, I actually own Chams already."

 

"Then why aren't you skiing them today?" says he. A mindreader this kid.

 

"Cos my lad's on 'em," I said. "But I still think the Brahma's are about the best things I've ever skied and I'd have bought them already except..."

 

And I s**t you not he interrupts me with "Well then you should try the new Dynastars."

 

"The Powertrack?" I ask.

 

Turns out he's ridden them already, he loves them; his Dynastar rep told him that they're the best skis Dynastar's made in a long time. Now this could all be sales talk but it was, after all, unsolicited. I had asked for Brahmas and was delivered Dynastar.

 

"I would hold out," he says, "Until you can demo the new Powertracks."

 

"The Brahma's are awesome but the Powertracks have a bit more camber and they pop out of turns. And they feel like they have the Dynastar guts to 'em". 

 

Now I'm not 100% sure what all this means, necessarily, but I thought it relevant to relay this information. It seemed like a particularly serendipitous moment.

 

Oh, and in the interest of completeness I ended up on a pair of twin tip Atomics about 100mm wide. Very nice through the mounds of fresh powder but they didn't track awfully well.

 

Looking forward, with renewed interest, to a demo opportunity on the Powertracks.

post #33 of 53

And how about the PT89 in bumps? Not the soft ones but all the others...

post #34 of 53

Been reading all the great info on these two skiis.......pretty much made up my mind to pull the trigger on the PT89's.  Can any of you who know this ski recommend a size ?  Me:  male lightweight @140 lbs and 5 ft 5in, aging level 3 skier, use to be 40/50 day pass holder Lake Tahoe (now 20 days/yr).....looking for this to be my daily driver of a 2 ski quiver (other ski NRGY 100 in a 169cm).  Intended use: realize it's not a total frontside carver but naturally appreciate good edge hold on mostly short and medium radius turns at "moderate" speeds....still an occasional bumper (use to be my passion)......will take out for use in up to 8-10 inches of pow and crud.  If I would ski a Brahma in a 166 then should I go for the 165cm in the PT89 ?

post #35 of 53


Did we answer the OPs question on Brahmas vs PT89?

post #36 of 53

There are some great reviews comparing these 2 on Blister gear review.

 

The summary seems to be that the PT89 is better in bumps and soft conditions and easier to turn, the brahma on ice and hard and mixed cruddy stuff.

post #37 of 53
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Originally Posted by sithjedi333 View Post
 

There are some great reviews comparing these 2 on Blister gear review.

 

The summary seems to be that the PT89 is better in bumps and soft conditions and easier to turn, the brahma on ice and hard and mixed cruddy stuff.

 

I have both the PT89 and Brahma. That's the gist of it.

post #38 of 53
Max
What is your tune on the Kendo? I am at 1-2 and thinking of going to 1-3.

What is your weight and length.


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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

I had hoped to this past season, but I had to miss both Demo day's at Okemo. The first demo we were in Aruba the next one we had a family function to attend, hopefully next season that doesn't happen.

I am amazed at how the new crop of 100mm skis are getting great reviews as a all-mountain ski. Markojp, I know you've been following my post lately, I'm still not convinced, even though I have friends on 98 and 100mm skis every day at Okemo.

May be it's more to do with the fact that I'm so in love with my 88mm waist kendo that I don't want to change...smile.gif

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.


" I will also be picking up a race carver to handle most of time. Looking to add something with more versitility when I travel and for those days here in the Midwest when we do get some new snow or it starts to slushify."


kano, if you want something for the crud/slushify may be something a little wider would be a better choice. What do you have for the powder day's ? Or will this ski be your powder ski ?
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by EraserXIV View Post
 

 

I have both the PT89 and Brahma. That's the gist of it.


Of course the follow-up question is which do you find underfoot most often?:Ott

post #40 of 53
Thread Starter 

I picked up the Brahma and skied it exclusively this year.  Everything from super rock hard snot to about 10" of new.  A fantastic ski.  Feel that it is the best ski that I have ever been on and that includes Stockli and Kastle.  Can't rave enough about it.

post #41 of 53
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Originally Posted by kano View Post
 

I picked up the Brahma and skied it exclusively this year.  Everything from super rock hard snot to about 10" of new.  A fantastic ski.  Feel that it is the best ski that I have ever been on and that includes Stockli and Kastle.  Can't rave enough about it.

 

what are your stats and where do u ski?

 

thx

post #42 of 53
Thread Starter 

I was mostly in the midwest this year do to circumstances beyond my control.  I am about 6'3" and 240 lbs.  I patrol at a small area here and so I was on these about 35 days or so this past season.  Everything from slush, a couple of fresh snow nights (4-9"), refrozen concrete, new groomers, etc,  Did everything I wanted them to.  A couple of times, I wished I had something with a little more race like grip.  But when the snow went even a little bit 3-D, I thought they fantastic.

post #43 of 53

I'm about your size (6'5, 235) and have been a big fan of the Brahmas, with Hell and Backs for the deeper days. I picked up a pair of PT89s late this season (Feb) without demoing at a great price based on the reviews here. Have you had a chance to demo the PT89s versus the Brahmas? 

post #44 of 53
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Originally Posted by bluedog View Post
 


Of course the follow-up question is which do you find underfoot most often?

 

I ski fast so the stability and relative dampness of the Brahma has me gravitating towards it more, it really plows over anything in its path which is good for the cruddy conditions. Brahma has been more confidence inspiring for the Ice Coast conditions in New England.

 

As discussed in another thread here, I feel the extreme forward mount of the PT89 explains a bit of the instability at speed and proneness to getting bounced around. I mounted Schizo bindings on it and will try some different mount points to see if it is better. It would be nice to have because the PT89 is easier to turn and not as tiring in the bumps.

post #45 of 53
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

Max
What is your tune on the Kendo? I am at 1-2 and thinking of going to 1-3.

What is your weight and length.


1-3 as are all my skis.

 

I'm 195lbs, 5'11", Kendos are 177cm

post #46 of 53
What kind of ski might you use .5 or .75 - 3?
post #47 of 53
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

What kind of ski might you use .5 or .75 - 3?

 

SL

post #48 of 53
And what on a
GS cheater?
Hi speed carver?
All eastern ice
post #49 of 53

levy1 it's personal preference. It could be worth starting at a .5 base and then softening it to taste.

post #50 of 53

^^^^ Bingo. 

post #51 of 53

Kano and Bluedog,

 

I am your size, 6'4" and 245lbs. I also like the Brahmas a lot and think they are a great ski for big guys. The PT89's sound a little too soft from what I have read, although I have not skied them. They might be fine for a big guy as long as you don't expect to ski very fast on them. The Brahmas can definitely handle a big guy at any speed and in most conditions.

 

Anyway, what size did you buy them in?

 

I was debating between the Brahmas and the Kastle MX series skis. I found a MX78 at a good price and bought it. It is a bit stiffer than the Brahma, not by much, and a little more front side carver oriented. No rocker and not as wide. I like it for an East Coast all mountain ski since I have a 100mm wide ski as well for new snow / deeper days. I wanted the Kastle for trees and bumps with old snow and it fills the bill. I was using a race slalom ski and it was just too stiff. The Kastle is just about the right amount softer for my tastes.

post #52 of 53
Thread Starter 
I got mine in a 180. In all likelihood a little short but I ski the majority of the time on short Midwest hills. Maybe 200-500 vertical and typically not a lot of new snow. If I was looking at it for elsewhere I would likely size up.
post #53 of 53

I'm 5'10" 225 and a "strong" skiier in the sense of picking things up and putting them down.

 

I got a 180cm Brahma as an east coast 50/50 ski. I've also got elan magfire 82xti's, blackdiamond verdicts 180cm and line sickday 125's.

 

The Brahma might become my new daily driver.

 

It's edge hold on hard snow is surprisingly good, totally carve able on anything short of bullet proof NE ice, but the real joy to me is it's ability to make any style turn at any speed with 0 drama, and that blizzard marketing about the ski being easy to shutdown is 100% true. You can throw them sideways easily and blow off some steam before getting back into the fall line.

 

They carve really well but I feel like you need to stay more centered if you really try to get hard into the front of the boots and drive them like a race ski the edge goes away and they brake out into a really predictable round scarve, but if you stay a bit more centered weight more midfoot than hard into the toes they'll lock on the edge and have enough rebound to send me clear off the snow on extension turns on steeps.

 

They did surprisingly good in some manky breakable crust at alta a few weeks ago as well.

 

 

TL;DR

Super predictable, no bad habits, does everything pretty damn well

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