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Help picking skis [first season, northeast]

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Hi everyone. I recently started skiing this winter. I stupidly bought a set blizzard 7.0 magnums in 153cm after being told I could "grow" into these skis. I also grossly over paid for them. After 20 days on the snow and some private lessons I've quickly outgrown them. Since I wont be returning to the place where I bought my skis I'm looking for advice. I'm looking at the Blizzard Magnum 8.0ca vs the Volkl 80rtm. Would these skis be too much for me? Also I've seen various sites talk about what length I should buy. Do you guys have any input. I'm 5'8 185 (Athletic Build) and consider myself at least an intermediate and would like a ski i can "grow" into. Also I looked into the Line Prophet but am note sure how that will perform on the east coast hardpack.

post #2 of 10
Something in the 175 - 185 area, I'm thinking. But depends a bit on the ski and the terrain.
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Hi everyone. I recently started skiing this winter. I stupidly bought a set blizzard 7.0 magnums in 153cm after being told I could "grow" into these skis. I also grossly over paid for them. After 20 days on the snow and some private lessons I've quickly outgrown them. Since I wont be returning to the place where I bought my skis I'm looking for advice. I'm looking at the Blizzard Magnum 8.0ca vs the Volkl 80rtm. Would these skis be too much for me? Also I've seen various sites talk about what length I should buy. Do you guys have any input. I'm 5'8 185 (Athletic Build) and consider myself at least an intermediate and would like a ski i can "grow" into. Also I looked into the Line Prophet but am note sure how that will perform on the east coast hardpack.

Welcome to EpicSki!  Did you notice that at the top of the Gear section there is a link to "Five Key Questions When Buying New Skis"?  The bottom of that EpicSki Article has a link to choosing a ski length.  As you probably noticed when reading, there is no firm answer because of the number of factors beside height and weight.  Certainly 153cm is too short for you.  I'm only 5'0" and even as an intermediate my skis were about 150cm.  Most intermediates do pretty well with skis that are between their chin and nose.  However, depends on the structure of the ski (camber, tip rocker, etc.).

 

Are you looking at 2014 models or previous years?

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Hi everyone. I recently started skiing this winter. I stupidly bought a set blizzard 7.0 magnums in 153cm after being told I could "grow" into these skis. I also grossly over paid for them. After 20 days on the snow and some private lessons I've quickly outgrown them. Since I wont be returning to the place where I bought my skis I'm looking for advice. I'm looking at the Blizzard Magnum 8.0ca vs the Volkl 80rtm. Would these skis be too much for me? Also I've seen various sites talk about what length I should buy. Do you guys have any input. I'm 5'8 185 (Athletic Build) and consider myself at least an intermediate and would like a ski i can "grow" into. Also I looked into the Line Prophet but am note sure how that will perform on the east coast hardpack.

 

 

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Something in the 175 - 185 area, I'm thinking. But depends a bit on the ski and the terrain.

Sibhusky is right in the length you should be looking for, again that depends on terrain and the type of ski.  

Between the two skis you're asking about, I'm inclined to say the Blizzard is a better ski for your skill building and for long term skiing, mostly because its a great groomer ski that has camber which will be an asset for learning to make good turns.  

I'm not a fan of the 0 camber technology in the RTM series. 

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks Everyone who replied so far.

To answer the five questions:

Where in the world am I skiing? The North East for now

What kind of terrain do I prefer?  Groomers

How many days a year will I ski? As many days as I can (most likely >20)

How advanced am I as a skier? I'd say intermediate but I'd like a ski I can grow into

My height and weight are 5'8 185lbs and very fit

 

Please feel free to make recommendations outside of Blizzard and Volkl. I'm looking at any ski available so year isn't really an issue as long as I can grow into it.

 

Again thanks for everyone replies!

post #6 of 10
I'd get something with camber as well! and agree on length a ~175 ski easygoing/not too demanding with camber and some early tip raise will serve you well and you can grown your skiing!

what kinda terrain do you like to ski?
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ill be skiing groomed runs
post #8 of 10

I would stick to the low 170's something stiffer, probably with metal since wood core skis that are stiffer are usually much wider than what you would need. Something 90mm underfoot or less think 80mm - 90mm underfoot, with camber, but depending on the ski you could probably go longer for some versatility and it will help if you decide to do some off piste.

 

Not sure how stiff the 8.0ca is, but I'd probably go for 179cm or if you go for the 8.0ti which I would in your place the 172 should be enough ski.

 

The size is really a matter of how much work you are willing to go through in the beginning for a better reward once you start to get better, faster, skiing different times of terrain. Another option would be a more versatile ski like the Blizzard Brahma, probably 180cm not really sure on the size for the Brahma, or the metal free Bushwacker which you would definitely want the 180cm, Line Prophet 179 (line skis measure very short compared to the stated length).

 

Brahma/Bushwacker/Prophet would help you skiing other types of terrain, but if you really think you won't be skiing other than groomers very often sticking to a 80mm is a good idea.

post #9 of 10
^^^^ @mfa81has some good points.  The trick is to find something that's soft enough for an advancing intermediate to be able to bend it and learn to make good turn shapes but not so soft that you lose performance at your size.  
@dookey67 has skied the non metal and metal version of the Blizzard 8.0 and he's a ski instructor so I'm betting he'd have some good advice on this particular topic. 
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by n3rd View Post
 

Hi everyone. I recently started skiing this winter. I stupidly bought a set blizzard 7.0 magnums in 153cm after being told I could "grow" into these skis. I also grossly over paid for them. After 20 days on the snow and some private lessons I've quickly outgrown them. Since I wont be returning to the place where I bought my skis I'm looking for advice. I'm looking at the Blizzard Magnum 8.0ca vs the Volkl 80rtm. Would these skis be too much for me? Also I've seen various sites talk about what length I should buy. Do you guys have any input. I'm 5'8 185 (Athletic Build) and consider myself at least an intermediate and would like a ski i can "grow" into. Also I looked into the Line Prophet but am note sure how that will perform on the east coast hardpack.

I live in PA and skied my P90's more than a few times in the Poconos. They really are one of the most versatile skis you can find and they handled the hardpack at Elk just as capably as they did the long packed powder groomers at PCMR and the fluffy stuff at Alta. In my view it's a fine ski for eastern conditions and I highly  recommend them if you can find a pair (they've been discontinued but there should be some leftovers around).

 

The P90 is more oriented toward the high intermediate than you would think and also seem to ski shorter than their length would indicate. I'm in that ability ballpark and at 5' 7" and 195 lbs, went with the 179cm. I'd guess that would be right for you as well.

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