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post #1 of 13
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and I wanted to get some opinions on what racing ski would be appropriate for me.

 

First, some background info. I would classify myself as an accomplished racer, and I am 5'8" and 150lbs. I've been racing on Head Worldcup Rebels for the past two seasons. My first year with Head was very good. I loved my Heads (2013 155cm) that year but this year I got the 2014 160cm skis and I just couldn't get used to them. They just had little pop. (could this be because of the length difference even though I grew over the off season??)  So for the remainder of the year I went back to my 155cm skis (which had already lost their pop the previous year).

 

So my question is what ski would be best for me? I'm looking for a ski that will have a lot of pop in them and allow me to get around a turn quick. I'm in Minnesota so we don't race in snow here, we race in ice so it needs to be able to hold an edge well too. I'm a little apprehensive about Atomics and Fischers as I've heard quite a few horror stories about delamination.

 

Thanks for your help!

post #2 of 13
Are we talking about Jr race skis? Many describe the Head ski as the stiffest of the bunch. The longer ski is most probably stiffer. Maybe a softer flex will allow you to load a longer ski better and get more 'pop'?
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by Karlsson View Post

Are we talking about Jr race skis? Many describe the Head ski as the stiffest of the bunch. The longer ski is most probably stiffer. Maybe a softer flex will allow you to load a longer ski better and get more 'pop'?

Sounds like slaloms?

post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by iceracer View Post
 

Hi everyone, I'm new here and I wanted to get some opinions on what racing ski would be appropriate for me.

 

First, some background info. I would classify myself as an accomplished racer, and I am 5'8" and 150lbs. I've been racing on Head Worldcup Rebels for the past two seasons. My first year with Head was very good. I loved my Heads (2013 155cm) that year but this year I got the 2014 160cm skis and I just couldn't get used to them. They just had little pop. (could this be because of the length difference even though I grew over the off season??)  So for the remainder of the year I went back to my 155cm skis (which had already lost their pop the previous year).

 

So my question is what ski would be best for me? I'm looking for a ski that will have a lot of pop in them and allow me to get around a turn quick. I'm in Minnesota so we don't race in snow here, we race in ice so it needs to be able to hold an edge well too. I'm a little apprehensive about Atomics and Fischers as I've heard quite a few horror stories about delamination.

 

Thanks for your help!

I have never seen a delaminated Atomic.  What ski are talking FIS slalom???  Delam issues would be Volkl!

post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post

Sounds like slaloms?

150 SL, a lady then, could also be JR GS. The person 'grew' so I suspected JR. But you can grow sideways too. Please OP, enlighten us.

EDIT. Misread, 155. SL it must be!
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone yes we're talking about slalom skis.

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post #7 of 13
My unofficial, largely unsubstantiated race ski stiffness grouping...it would be interesting to hear what others think as well.

Fischer / Atomic / Head - stiffer
Dynastar / Volkl / Rossi / Stockli - not as stiff
Nordica / Blizzard - ???
post #8 of 13
If you step into sr FIS I think you can order any brand with various flexes.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

My unofficial, largely unsubstantiated race ski stiffness grouping...it would be interesting to hear what others think as well.

Fischer / Atomic / Head - stiffer
Dynastar / Volkl / Rossi / Stockli - not as stiff
Nordica / Blizzard - ???

Blizzard SL STIFF
GS depends on what you get, but generally on the medium-stiff

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Karlsson View Post

If you step into sr FIS I think you can order any brand with various flexes.

depends where/who you order from

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

My unofficial, largely unsubstantiated race ski stiffness grouping...it would be interesting to hear what others think as well.

Fischer / Atomic / Head - stiffer
Dynastar / Volkl / Rossi / Stockli - not as stiff
Nordica / Blizzard - ???

  

Based on skiing quite a lot of different slaloms, I would say that slam skis,, like the new GS skis, have progressed well beyond the old stiffness paradigms as above.  They are much more designed to have better flex while still having torsional stiffness that doesn't impact the ability of the slier to bend the ski.  Several, such as Atomic, also come in different flexes.   Some such as the Dynastar/Rossi which for a while were noodles are completely different now.  

 

Personally based on what I have skied, the Blizzard is the current top of the heap, closely followed by the Rossi/Dynastar and Atomic.  And the flex on these is not too soft for me @ 165#

post #12 of 13

When I was at an Ncaa race at Killington this year, Couple of the racers on Head slaloms considered them noodles. They wanted the "real" ones that some of the Austrian's can get.

post #13 of 13

Was the 160 the FIS SL ski?  This one is a shortened 165, not proportionally smaller, and it skis stiffer than the 165.

 

At 150 lbs, the 160 or 165 will be a lot harder to bend and hold an edge on ice compared to the 155.

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