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East Face at Sugarbowl, 4/11/14

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No real task. Just figuring out what the snow is like and having fun.

 

Punchy spring chopped up steep crud, mixed with a few firm spots.

 

I know what I see.. What do you see?

 

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I know what I see.. What do you see?

I see what you see. But do you see what I see?
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The beauty of watching the demo team guys ski is they just ski when they are in crud. Their movements are the same as when they are on groomers. The beauty of watching mere mortals ski in crud is it only takes a nanosecond for us to figure out the normal tactics aren't working and we revert to cheating. My first observation was seeing some "stalling" (a tiny bit of park and ride). This is a common reaction to crud. Fix the instabiltiy by building a platform before launching into the next turn. I generally fix this by keeping my turns more in the fall line and accepting a higher speed down the fall line. Of course, this only works till there's a certain steepness of pitch or cruddiness of the snow that overcomes my bravery. I didn't think this would help you much, so let's take a closer look at this run.

Outside ski diverging - not balancing against the outside leg.

 

Initiation with upper body lean into the new turn. Note how the left leg is blocking the hips from getting to the inside of the next turn. Also note how hard it is going to be to get weight onto the right leg from this position.

 

This is a good contrast to the previous pic, but the butt has slid laterally to the inside and the new outside ski is already beginning to diverge. See how the left hand is bent back in at the elbow? It's blocking instead of leading the upper body down the fall line.

 

Does the tip lead match the belt, hand and shoulder lines? Not bad. But how did you get here? Just before this there was a tiny heel push/pivot/skid. Skidding into this position vs steering into it means you will go up and over into the next turn.

 

Well, the good news is that you are not in the back seat.

 

This looks really nice but...

a split second later your left leg does not flex initiating the left turn. Up you go and and there's that left leg blocking again. And a bend in the hips trying to force getting into the new turn.

 

 

Two tips to try:

Flex the new inside leg to release the old turn.

Thumb points down the fall line after the pole touch.

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Thanks Rusty,

That confirms what I see as well.

As far as speed, crud and steep. Speed on this is not comfortable in these conditions.(for me anyway)

For those not familiar with this run, it's one of those that they occasionally groom. It requires a winch to run the groomer down it.
What I like to call Winch cat steep.
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