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Please help with ski recommendation!! [in BC, returning after 20 years to ski with family]

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, love the forum, hope you guys can help me out a bit.

 

You've probably heard this 1000 times but I've been out of skiing for 20 years, looking to get back into it to ski with my wife and kids.

 

I am 5 foot 10 inches, weigh 230 pounds (need to lose 25 pounds ;))  used to be a pretty decent skier.  Can anyone recommend me something under $500 for myself? 

 

I will be skiing mostly groomed runs, maybe a little off to the side, not much.  I live in BC so it will all be West Coast skiing.

 

I've read a lot on here and am a little heavy for my height so really not sure a good size and strong ski to handle my weight.  There are just so many options these days, a little help from the experts would really help.

 

Craig

post #2 of 28
Thread Starter 

sorry guys, i just meant a pair of skis for myself.

post #3 of 28
what is your definition of intermediate how do you make your turns do you pole plant and weight and unweight?
post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 

you know what, by just listening to that question, i would have to say i am a beginner again.  Not much form but could ski blues, etc back in the day just going across the run. I would like to get a ski that i could keep for a while and grow into.

 

Craig

post #5 of 28
we're going to need some input from other skiers because we have a problem. You need some length to support your weight or a shorter stiff ski. I no longer work in a shop so I cannot give you good advise
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 

I was looking at a few on Craigslist and in the store.. I liked the Head Rev 80 and the Rossignal E74..  I have a list of a few that the ski shop recommended to me but it was only stuff that they carried.  He did say i needed a bit of a stiffer ski.

 

 

Here are a few I was looking at:

 

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/spo/4358534897.html   but they might be too small for me..

 

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/spo/4400894678.html   still a little small at 166

 

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/spo/4359846782.html   these look awesome but were a little pricey..

post #7 of 28

Based on your size you need something around 170-175cm to start and, depending on how you progress, about 180-185cm in a year or two.  Frankly, I would stay away from CL, there is a lot of garbage for sale there.  Call around to the local ski rental shops and see if they are selling off part of the rental or demo fleet.  These can often be had at very reasonable prices.  For example the last pair of skis I purchased, Atomic Rituals, were retired demos and I paid less than half price, including bindings.  There were a few very minor dings in the top sheets but the bases were perfect.

post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice, appreciate it. For Craigslist, I was looking only at mint condition really new stuff. Can you recommend brand/model that can handle my weight?

Craig
post #9 of 28
we need to help him by recommending some specifics skis
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 

thanks man, appreciate it.. here is the list of performance skis from one of our local mountains..  Anything there look good?   Any prices look like a good deal?  Sorry it is so long, it was in a table but i couldn't find a way to paste the pdf here..

 

rossignol experience88 Axium120wide SPS3 186 Nov,2011 $ 349 
rossignol avenger82 Axium 120 L 182 Nov,2011 $ 349 
rossignol experience98 Axial 120 XL 188 Dec-12 $ 399 
rossignol S7 Axial 120 XXL 178 Dec-12 $ 399 
rossignol attraxion 8 Saph 110 L 154 Dec-12 $ 369 
rossignol experience 88 Axium 120XL 170 13-Dec $ 399 
rossignol experience 83 Axium 120 L 160 13-Dec $ 369 
rossignol experience 83 Axium 120 L 168 13-Dec $ 369 
rossignol experience 83 Axium 120 L 176 13-Dec $ 369 
rossignol Sin 7 Axium 120 XL 172 13-Dec $ 449 
rossignol Sin 7 Axium 120 XL 180 13-Dec $ 449 
rossignol Saffron 7 Axium 120 XL 162 13-Dec $ 449 
rossignol Saffron 7 Axium 120 XL 170 13-Dec $ 449 
rossignol Savory 7 Axial 2 XXL 170 13-Dec $ 499 
rossignol Temptation 78 Xelium Saphir 142 13-Dec $ 349 
rossignol Temptation 78 Xelium Saphir 150 13-Dec $ 349 
rossignol Temptation 78 Xelium Saphir 158 13-Dec $ 349 
rossignol Temptation 82 Saphir 160 13-Dec $ 399 
salomon bbr 10.0 Z12 184 Dec-12 $ 479 
salomon enduro xt 800 Z12 182 Dec-12 $ 449 
salomon rocker 2 108 Z12 174 Dec-12 $ 399 
salomon rocker 2 108 Z12 182 Dec-12 $ 399 
salomon bbr 9.0 Z12 176 13-Dec $ 499 
salomon Q 98 Z12 180 13-Dec $ 469 
salomon Q 98 Z12 188 13-Dec $ 469 
salomon Q 90 Z12 185 13-Dec $ 449 
salomon Lux 88 Z12 159 13-Dec $ 449 
salomon Lux 88 Z12 167 13-Dec $ 449 
salomon Bamboo Z10 TI 162 13-Dec $ 369 
salomon Lava L10 143 13-Dec $ 329 
salomon Lava L10 151 13-Dec $ 329 
salomon Lava L10 159 13-Dec $ 329

head rocknroll SP 120 ABS W 180 Nov,2011 $ 349 
head ipeak84 PRD12 184 Nov,2011 $ 349 
head Rev 90 SP 120 ABS W 170 Dec-12 $ 425 
head mya 8 SP 120 ABS 156 Dec-12 $ 375 
head mya 8 SP 120 ABS 163 Dec-12 $ 375 
head Rev 80 PRD 12 163 13-Dec $ 399 
head Rev 80 PRD 12 170 13-Dec $ 399 
head Rev 80 PRD 12 177 13-Dec $ 399 
head Rev 85 Pro PRD 12 177 13-Dec $ 449 
head Rev 85 Pro PRD 12 184 13-Dec $ 449 
head Rev 85 Pro PRD 12 170 13-Dec $ 449 
head Rev 90 SP 120 177 13-Dec $ 469 
head Rev 90 SP 120 184 13-Dec $ 469 
head Rev 105 SP 120 181 13-Dec $ 499 
head magnum PRX 12 163 13-Dec $ 499 
head magnum PRX 12 170 13-Dec $ 499 
head collective 105 SP 120 181 13-Dec $ 449 
head mya 4 Mya 9 142 13-Dec $ 299 
head mya 4 Mya 9 149 13-Dec $ 299 
head mya 4 Mya 9 156 13-Dec $ 299 
head mya 6 Mya 10 156 13-Dec $ 369 
head mya 6 Mya 10 163 13-Dec $ 369

post #11 of 28
post #12 of 28

What about renting and taking a lesson to learn how to use the new skis ?

 

20 years, a lot has changed.

post #13 of 28
Thread Starter 
You know we talked about that but the price of renting and a couple lessons I could pretty much outfit my wife with all new (used) gear. We thought instead we will just get some gear and spend a few days on the easy runs.

Anyone have any recommendations from the rental fleet I listed above that can handle my weight and I can grow into?

Craig
Edited by xman111 - 4/12/14 at 7:47am
post #14 of 28
I have a pair of k2 recon Apache size 181 in excellent condition for $250 plus shipping. Used only one season. It would be easy to ski for you but I do not know if it would be your best choice. Maybe other skiers could tell us if it would be a good choice for you
post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 
I will consider that, thanks.
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hey guys quick question. My wifes friend is going to give her some skis. They are movement skis, a couple years old. They have movement free ski 120 bindings, can anyone tell me if they are able to be worked on by a ski shop? It looks like they might be on the idemnified list but how could that be if they are only a couple years old. Could someone with more knowledge double check for me?
post #17 of 28

If it's on the list, shops WILL work on it.  If it's not on the list it would be a problem getting work done.

post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hey thanks ghost, so now she is good to go. Now I just have to worry about me.

Nobody can recommend a ski to handle my manlihood? smile.gif

Took the wife and kids up to the mountain to check it out and to see the demo fleet for sale. They were not in very good shape. The Rev 80's were going to be about $500 and there were knicks and gauges everywhere, so I passed. It was awesome to be up there and now I'm even more stoked.

Craig
post #19 of 28

Given your price range, you will have to look to the used market.  Given that, you really should cough up the twenty bucks for a subscription membership to realskiers.com.  Even though the reviews have gone downhill with the new format since the site was sold, the old reviews, which will be of interest to you are excellent.  For example clicking on 2012, then Fischer, you will see, according to the symbols (which they explain), that the Watea 84 is suitable for all speed ranges, suitable for blue and geen level "new style" skiers, and old style expert skiers (.  That's just one example.  There are hundreds of skis that would work.   All you need to do is frequent, used ski sales,  CL, Cajiji, etc., and when you find a ski for sale look it up on realskiers.

 

Given that you ski west coast Canada, snow will usually be soft, wet, and deep, and spaces wide open for the most part.  So I would not recommend the same ski for there as I would for Ontario where ice and hardpack are the usual conditions.   I have skied Mt. Washington on the island, and groomer skiing there is more like off-piste skiing here (off-piste skiing there is like heaven).  There is often 6" or more fresh snow on top of the groomed runs.  Something mid 80s with a turn radius of 18-ish  turn radius (like the Watea 84) would work well there as a one-ski quiver. 

 

If you use the historic real-skiers reviews as a guide, buy a ski with all speed zones, as high a range of skier abilities that still has your ability, and around 18 m turn radius.  If you want to learn good technique that includes good carving I would also tend to minimize rocker, but if you plan on going off-piste, then rocker is not such a bad idea, but you would also benefit from a wider ski in a quiver for that.

 

Hope that helps.

post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 

thanks for the advice Ghost.. i will cough up the $20.. I really am just most concerned about my weight and that the skis are strong and stiff enough.  I can spend up to about $500 on skis.  It looks like i could get new skis for that price but not maybe the ones that would be right for me..

 

Craig

post #21 of 28

Skis come in different lengths.  If you buy the ski in the longest length(best) or 2nd longest length (close 2nd) it comes in, in a ski that has a rated ability level matched to yours and above, it will be stiff enough.

 

Shorter skis would be easier to push around, and would perhaps make learning less onerous for a never-ever, because they do not have the power to resist and punish mistakes.  However since you have skied at least half-decently before now, the longer length should not be much of a problem for you.   It's like riding a bicycle; it will come back. 

 

You are correct in not falling for the typical beginner advice and not getting a ski that won't be able turn you at speed.

post #22 of 28
great advice
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Skis come in different lengths.  If you buy the ski in the longest length(best) or 2nd longest length (close 2nd) it comes in, in a ski that has a rated ability level matched to yours and above, it will be stiff enough.

Shorter skis would be easier to push around, and would perhaps make learning less onerous for a never-ever, because they do not have the power to resist and punish mistakes.  However since you have skied at least half-decently before now, the longer length should not be much of a problem for you.   It's like riding a bicycle; it will come back. 

You are correct in not falling for the typical beginner advice and not getting a ski that won't be able turn you at speed.
post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 

looking very closely at the Head Rev 85 Pro in 177cm and the Blackeye TI in 174cm.. anyone have thoughts on those?

post #24 of 28
I would say for BC, you might want something a wider, that Salomon Q98 in 180 might be nice. Or something with a 90mm waist, even upper 80's. Lots of people on those waisted skis now.

That Head Rev90 might be nice too. was it 177cm

Have you read up on how to ski the new skis ?

What do you have for boots ?

Lot's of deals on line now, skiessentails.com just came out with a 20% off at check out. Look for last years or older stuff. I bought Volkl Shiro's 2012 new in the wrapper for $270 shipped a month ago.

http://www.skiessentials.com/browse.cfm/view-by-model-year/2,192.html

I think there is this years Volkl Kendo with a binding in 177cm for $479 at checkout with a binding. Very temping to me. I love my 3 y/o Kendo's.
post #25 of 28
Thread Starter 

I figured the 85 would be a happy medium, i wasn't too sure though.  I will mostly be all on groomed runs, thought if i got up into the 90's it might be hard for me to turn.  I was looking at skiessentials, that is where i was planning on buying the stuff.  It is a little more hassle as i would have it shipped to the US and pick it up when im going down for a few days so i wouldn't have to pay taxes and duties. 

 

i could get the Rev 90 in Canada at a pretty good price.. would that be too wide for 90% groomed runs?

 

As for boots, thats another problem, as the ski salesman said "you have freakishly wide feet", hehe, so i might get the Atomic Livefit 100 which has a rubber piece to accomodate wider feet.  It was the only boot in the store that he had that would fit me.. 

 

Would the Kendo be a good fit for me?  I would like to save the 20%.

 

Craig

post #26 of 28

IMO 90mm waste in a new ski with good skier skill set you should be fine. There are a lot of us the ski every weekend in the east on upper 80's to 100mm waist skis. The do a good job of skiing on hard snow with edge grip and have the versatility to be fun when you get a few inches of powder and anything in between. 

post #27 of 28
Thread Starter 

hey guys, just went to a local ski shop and they recommended the 2014 K2 Recoil with Marker Griffon 14 bindings.. It is a twin tip burly looking park sort of ski.. Any thoughts on that vs. the Rev 85 Pro? or Blackeye TI?

post #28 of 28

Google those skis and read the reviews. The K2's, I would question the edge hold on firm snow. The other two should be fine in those conditions.

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