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I have a friend who claims his ski logics 101vunder foot (urlls charriot) does it all. However, I looked in every ski shop in Vail , and aalso Aspen, and not one shop carried that ski. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by JimmyA View Post

I have a friend who claims his ski logics 101vunder foot (urlls charriot) does it all. However, I looked in every ski shop in Vail , and aalso Aspen, and not one shop carried that ski. Am I missing something?


IMHO, no ski does it all and I have the 101mm Ullr Chariot you are referring to.  There is always a sacrifice somewhere.  The UC is indeed very good on hard snow because it has no rocker.  It is very good on soft snow because it is fat enough.  You can ski it at speed.  There is a lot of camber and it is tortionally very stiff, so it is IMO better suited for those who like to engage the tips.   You will always tire less on soft snow with a rockered ski, and will always tire less on hard snow with 66mm a SL ski.  So it can do it all, but there is a sacrifice (as always).  The skis, to some, are the best looking ever made.  Ski Logik is a relatively new company that puts out some great products.  Not every ski shop carries the brand, but like with other smaller manufacturers it can be ordered directly through their site.  You can find some reviews of the skis on EPICSKI and on RealSkiers.com and some of the gaper magazines. BTW, "Logik" is spelled with a "k."

post #3 of 13
Read some of the threads on here about powder skis and such over the past few day's.

It seems that you can have 2 or 3 skis to cover all, if you really feel the need for a SL type ski.

IMO most of us will do fine with 2 skis.

I like my 88mm waist, full camber for 90% of my skiing. For the Spring crud, I love my new 119mm waist Shiro's. It's like cheating...
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IMO most of us will do fine with 2 skis.
 

..actually 3 skis..maybe 4..OK 5 pair...6 IS a round number..7 is prime...8 is always good...9 fills up a wall nice...10 gets you into double digits...11 looks like a pair...12 is an even dozen..13 is a bakers dozen.....

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..actually 3 skis..maybe 4..OK 5 pair...6 IS a round number..7 is prime...8 is always good...9 fills up a wall nice...10 gets you into double digits...11 looks like a pair...12 is an even dozen..13 is a bakers dozen.....


Thankfully, I spent my money last week from the Start Haus ski consignment two years ago on a ski jacket for my son to grow into and not on another pair of skis. 

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..actually 3 skis..maybe 4..OK 5 pair...6 IS a round number..7 is prime...8 is always good...9 fills up a wall nice...10 gets you into double digits...11 looks like a pair...12 is an even dozen..13 is a bakers dozen.....

 



I would expect nothing less from you.


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FYI:  The proper name is SKILOGIK

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

..actually 3 skis..maybe 4..OK 5 pair...6 IS a round number..7 is prime...8 is always good...9 fills up a wall nice...10 gets you into double digits...11 looks like a pair...12 is an even dozen..13 is a bakers dozen.....



I agree....at last count there were 23 pairs of "currently active" skis in the workshop....wife says I need to make a ski rack....the 3 and 4 deep against-the-wall situation is taking up too much space...oh well...

 

As far as JImmyA's question about missing something...there are indeed some really good "nearly do it all" skis these days...quite remarkable performance in nearly all conditions.  5 Years ago, we all poo-pooed the idea of all-mountain skis being really good at nearly everything (instead they were pretty mediocre at everything)....and 100mm skis could carve securely on hardpack....how quickly times change.....JImmy A - Get out and demo everything you can get your hands on....see for yourself...tons of skis from big brands and small brands making lots of people very happy these days!

post #9 of 13

I own the Chariot and I agree with your friend's assessment. The ski is not the best at everything, but it is very good at almost everything you would want a ski to do. It's short comings are in deep snow (over a foot) and I notice the width compared to my race skis on hard snow. But I would not hesitate to run the ski through a Nastar course, love it in soft snow, has excellent edge hold on ice, and is very stable in powder, although the tips will dive if you don't hold them up (I ski a 178 cm length which is short for me). If you are asking why you couldn't find it, it is because it is a relatively new company, 3 to 4 years old. I don't know about their business model, but they sell over the Internet. I suspect the shops are some what entrenched in the "big box" brands and don't want to take on a new boutique brand of skis until they really establish themselves. Maybe Ski Logik won't ship skis on credit or there is some other financial barrier to over come. They are almost works of art, so maybe they give the impression they aren't durable. 

 

My ski buddy skied my skis once and had to have a pair. We met a rep at a ski mountain in NH on a pair and my buddy gave him cash on the spot for his pair. The skis really can elicit an emotional reaction, no kidding. After saying that, I let another friend ski them this weekend. He hadn't skied in 10 years and he couldn't handle the width and had trouble getting them on edge. I would say if you take to a wide (101mm) ski that can really carve, you will like them. Contact the company to find where you can buy them, or order direct. 

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Post
 


IMHO, no ski does it all and I have the 101mm Ullr Chariot you are referring to.  There is always a sacrifice somewhere.  The UC is indeed very good on hard snow because it has no rocker.  It is very good on soft snow because it is fat enough.  You can ski it at speed.  There is a lot of camber and it is tortionally very stiff, so it is IMO better suited for those who like to engage the tips.   You will always tire less on soft snow with a rockered ski, and will always tire less on hard snow with 66mm a SL ski.  So it can do it all, but there is a sacrifice (as always).  The skis, to some, are the best looking ever made.  Ski Logik is a relatively new company that puts out some great products.  Not every ski shop carries the brand, but like with other smaller manufacturers it can be ordered directly through their site.  You can find some reviews of the skis on EPICSKI and on RealSkiers.com and some of the gaper magazines. BTW, "Logik" is spelled with a "k."

^I agree with this synopsis^

 

I just got my 2nd pair of Chariot TT's through a friend who is an Aspen area rep.  IIRC, he said that this was the last year of production for that ski but they would still be available by special order. 

 

BTW, after hacking the hell out of the sidewall on my original pair, they seem to have solved that issue as my new ones seem to be holding up just fine.

 

For me this ski does just about everything pretty damn well.  If I could only have one ski right now, this would be it!

post #11 of 13

4ster,

 

They won't be making the TT chariot anymore?  I thought that was their best selling model, guess not. Is the rockered version of the chariot taking over? I heard it's flex was off when it first came out.

post #12 of 13
Ullr chariot tt ski well for me. Everyone likes the top sheets. Great skis.
post #13 of 13
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4ster,

 

They won't be making the TT chariot anymore?  I thought that was their best selling model, guess not. Is the rockered version of the chariot taking over? I heard it's flex was off when it first came out.

FWIW, I only heard that 2nd hand :dunno

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