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Mid layer for BC Canada??

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

I am from Australia and will be travelling to BC Canada to ski.

Currently I have a Gortex shell and that's all you need here in Australia, I want some advice on what would be a great mid layer to wear on the when skiing over there?

I was looking at the Arcteryx Atom LT or the SV, as i can wear these around town when im not skiing as well.

 

What do you think will this be enough?

post #2 of 11

When are you travelling?  Now?  If so, then it's Spring skiing and a baselayer and shell should be ok.  If you're planning on going during normal winter months, then no, a base layer and shell are definitely NOT enough.  

 

Let's assume the latter......an Atom LT jacket as a mid layer should be ok, especially if you're doing any hiking.  It depends a bit if you run hot or cold due to your body type, and what extent of cold you're used to.  I went skiing in a base layer, Atom LT, and GoreTex shell in -40C weather and was starting to feel a bit chilly on the lift.  But I'm used to the cold. Any other time, that combo is fine for me.  Around town, the Atom LT is iffy though.......the side panels are very breathable and will let cold wind in. And since you're not working up a heat/sweat, it might not be enough.  I saw most people around town wearing a puffy/down jacket as their outer.

 

If you're going to coastal BC (ie-Whistler), it won't be quite as cold as interior BC, but anywhere in Canada has the potential to get REALLY COLD.  Or maybe not.  You never know for sure.  But you will definitely need a mid-layer.  Atom LT should be sufficient, unless you're not used to true cold (below -20C).  SV might be a bit puffy/thick though.  You might want to go with a base, light fleece, Atom LT, and shell. That'll keep you toasty if it the temps really take a nosedive.

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

I will be travelling during the normal winter months. Banff, Big White and Whistler.

I am definitely not used to the cold,I have hardly skied at minus Celsius temperatures before. Perhaps by having the Atom Lt and having fleece and a base will be better as i will be able to regulate my temperature better. although I still would need something around town.

 

Maybe buy both, LT for mid layer and the SV for my around town jacket?

post #4 of 11

If you have the budget, sure.  The LT isn't terribly warm walking around town, if it's cold out.  I was in Banff for a week and we got a cold snap.  So cold my breath was hitting my eyelashes and freezing on impact.  Walking 4 blocks, I had mini ice cubes on my eyelashes!  Funny in hindsight, but crap was it cold.  On the slopes it wasn't so bad because I could work up some heat lapping a few groomers.  

 

Another day it hit 1C and I was on the patio with no hat or mitts, jacket open, and enjoy a drink in the sun.  But I guess I'm used to the cold.  I often go skiing at night when it's -10 to -15C consistently or worse with wind chill.

 

If you're not used to really cold weather, the extra layer will help.  The Atom LT is an excellent mid layer, but if it's really cold out, a thin fleece underneath will work wonders.  My wife is petite and not so good in the cold, that's the layer setup she uses and then she's fine for the whole day.  

 

I wish I had an Atom SV for around town, that would have been perfect!

 

BTW, between Banff, Big White, and Whistler, that is one HECKUVA Canuck trip, you'll have a blast!

post #5 of 11
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BTW, between Banff, Big White, and Whistler, that is one HECKUVA Canuck trip, you'll have a blast!

 

Hahaha it will be epic for sure, will have to catch up on the Canadian slang though...

 

Sounds like both will be the go for the time that i will be there.

 

I have the thermals covered however a thin fleece that would be suitable do you have any suggestions?

post #6 of 11

If you like Arc'teryx, then the Delta LT would be perfect. That's what I have, very nicely tailored, a bit of an athletic fit, not too thick or bulky.  I got a great deal on clearance sale.  Pullover or full zip, your call.  There are many other suitable lightweight fleeces out there, but depends what fits your body type.  For example, Patagonia makes some great stuff, but their "fit" is far tooooo boxy for me, doesn't fit me at all properly.  I'm not an Arc'teryx snob, it's just that their fit/style suits me really well.  I'm 6'2", 190 lbs, and their Large models generally work well across the board for me.

post #7 of 11
Banff can be really cold. Think about an insulated sweater for there. Big White doesn't get as cold as Banff, but is generally a little colder than Whistler.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

That looks great.

 

Thank you for your help 

post #9 of 11

I have both the LT and SV.  On really cold days I use the SV and on not so cold days I use the LT.  I live near Banff and use the SV more in the winter - both for skiing and hiking/walking and not-so-vigorous activities.  I use the LT more on cold days for touring/bc skiing  because the SV is too warm.    Now that it's spring, I tend to use the LT more for both skiing and non-vigorous activities.  The SV works nicely on really cold days (below -20)  with some extra layers.  When it is about -10, the SV works well with some thinner layers. 

 

For your trip, the SV would probably be the most useful, but you will have to regulate with layering.

post #10 of 11

How stylish do you need to be?  You can go to any big box or thrift store when you get to Canada and pick up a half dozen different types of fleece garments to layer as needed: Vests, shirts, jackets, etc.  Then check the temps, layer up for the day, and head out.  If you don't care about such things as color or cool tags, any of the stuff you find will work fine and it won't break the bank.  However, if you like to look good and impress, then you'll have to spend some dough on big name stuff.

 

In either case, you'll want variety because every day is different and if you're skiing in such disparate places as Banff and Whistler you'll find that the temperatures are widely variable.

post #11 of 11
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In either case, you'll want variety because every day is different and if you're skiing in such disparate places as Banff and Whistler you'll find that the temperatures are widely variable.

This is very true.  Not only will temperatures vary widely among the resorts on your itinerary, but Whistler alone has huge temperature variances, day over day, valley to high alpine.  In the past 5 days at Whistler/BC, I've used 3 different mid-layers between a base layer and a shell.  And all were in a roughly similar band.  Granted it is April so the variances are massive right now (20+ degrees F from Valley Floor to Peak, 10+ degrees F in a single elevation band day-over day), but even in mid-winter you will see a huge range of conditions at a Coastal mountain like Whistler.

 

Mid-Winter at Big White (or anything east of the Coquihalla) is more consistent - typically colder and drier.  At Big White in mid-winter, I go with two basic setups, cold and really cold. It can get extremely cold and windy above the treeline.  A light down layer works great in the Okanogan because it isn't as wet over there.

 

You will definitely want to invest in some choices that can work together as layers or be used as separates - and you will figure it out once you are in the environment.  As a PNW-based skier, I am always in search of the perfect mid-layer - I've found a lot of options that work well, but no "one-piece quiver."  Options and combinations are good.

 

Have fun.  It sounds like you have a great adventure planned.

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