or Connect
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

How wide is wide?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 

Ok, I have as requested read the FAQ and "what boot will fit" and searched for other threads from people with wide feet, and I think I've still got a question to ask the boot guys.

 

Here's the deal:  I've been working with a bootfitter, trying to get a good fit for what appear to be wide, flat feet with a SMALL heel and lower calf.  When someone measured across my foot from the bunion just below my big toe, it was 120 mm straight across, 130 mm to what's actually the widest part of my foot, which is well behind my small toe.

 

We started with a Technica HVL 120 (2013) in a 27.5 (106 mm last).  Getting the forefoot wide enough involved heating and molding the shell in the store, then subsequently punching it out along the outside of the foot, then me boiling-and-buckling at home.  He heated and stretched the liner in that area, too.  We also did footbeds.

 

The heel, though, is apparently way, way, way too wide:  I have a foam ankle wrap (around the back and under the ankle bone on each side) on the liner on each foot, augumented with an extra piece of foam on each side of the ankle (one foot) and with yet another piece of foam on the other.    Heel hold and stability on the side with "only" four widths of foam around the heel is reasonable.   The other one (with five), not so much, but that's a question for a separate thread.

 

Everything I've read here suggests that padding the liner like this is at best a temporary fix, good only until the foam breaks down.  When I raised this with the guy I was working with and asked about maybe starting with a boot with a narrower heel (and maybe a lower instep?), he said that, past a certain point, you're basically screwed:  you can't punch a boot out too far without distorting how the toe plate and the heel plate are aligned.

 

Does that make sense?  If not, what kind of lower-volume, narrow-heeled boot might be stretched to fit that kind of forefoot?  If it does, is there a more lasting or general fix than taping foam to the outside of the stock liner?

 

Thanks for any info.  I've tried to provide the details that seemed like they'd be relevant, let me know if I've missed something.

 

Not sure whether they help, but here are pics of my feet.  The left one (top pic) is the wider and (slightly) shorter, also has a protruding navicular bone you can only kind of see, for which the boot is punched out.

 

 

post #2 of 5

If all the faom holds up, that might work, but I think over time it will pack out.   

To increase the heel hold, a foam liner might help?   or more padding on the tongue, to help drive the heel down and back?


Are the boots OK for width now?

 

what is the shell fit like on them for lenght?

post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
 

If all the faom holds up, that might work, but I think over time it will pack out.   

To increase the heel hold, a foam liner might help?   or more padding on the tongue, to help drive the heel down and back?


Are the boots OK for width now?

 

what is the shell fit like on them for lenght?

 

The boots are fine for width in the forefoot (mid-foot, since it's not my toes that are the issue?).  All that heating and molding and punching and whatnot does appear to have both widened and flattened the front of the boot (though not quite flat enough over the instep on the left, feels like).

 

Length in the shell is about one finger (different on the two feet)---toes definitely up against the front of the boot (or at least the liner) on both sides when I first put them on.  I pushed for a smaller boot---the first one we tried was a 28.5, which is what my previous boots had been.

 

Someone else suggested a foam liner in a PM, so that's sounding more and more like a possible next step.   How would you add padding to the tongue on a stock liner?  What I have been doing, which helps some, is inserting a piece I cut off of a larger tongue pad that's meant to be used inside the stock tongue.  What I kept is the piece just over the ankle/instep---my calves don't need any help, at least not at the top of the boot, as opposed maybe to just above the ankle.

post #4 of 5

you are doing the instep/ankle padding correct,   add more if needed.

 

foam liners are avail with foamed tongues too.   might be worth adding that too.  But its $500-700 for them both with labour...   and they can be cold, But the fit is amazing.

post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
 

you are doing the instep/ankle padding correct,   add more if needed.

 

foam liners are avail with foamed tongues too.   might be worth adding that too.  But its $500-700 for them both with labour...   and they can be cold, But the fit is amazing.


Wow, that's a good bit more than the boots cost themselves (not counting the footbeds, canting, et very cetera).

 

On the other hand, having a solid fit on one boot and a sloppy fit on the other really underlines the benefits of a good fit---I'm totally confident turning one direction, definitely shaky turning the other, on the same slope.   Guess I'll keep trying the padding for now, keep the foam liners in mind as a possible next step.

 

Thanks for the advice.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ask the Boot Guys