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Rossi S3, Mantra, Bonafide Comparison?

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I've skied the Mantra and the Bonafide and loved them both. I've never had a chance to ski the Rossi S3. What are some of the similarities, differences, pro's, and cons of the S3 as compared to the Mantra and the Bonafide? I used these 2 as references because of the waist and the fact that I've skied them both.
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I've skied the Mantra and the Bonafide and loved them both. I've never had a chance to ski the Rossi S3. What are some of the similarities, differences, pro's, and cons of the S3 as compared to the Mantra and the Bonafide? I used these 2 as references because of the waist and the fact that I've skied them both.


About the only thing that the S3 has in common with the other 2 is the waist width.  There really isn't a relevant comparison (which is why you aren't going to see these skis compared).  If the Bonafide and Mantra sit at one end of the spectrum of ~98s (metal laminate, stiff, powerful, relatively traditional in shape), the S3 is at the opposite end of the spectrum (light, compliant, playful, smeary and soft snow-biased). 

 

You really wouldn't cross-shop the S3 with the other two.  It is either/or.  If you like Rossi, the comparable Rossi to the Bonafide and Mantra is the E98 (which is a very strong, stiff, powerful ski).

 

It really depends on what you are looking for, where you ski, how you ski, what your purpose with this ski would be.  One style is neither better nor worse, more "expert" or less "expert."  Just totally different.

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noodle, plank, compromise

    s3, mantra, bonafide

 

just bumps= s3

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Im one of those weirdos who likes both.  I own the non rockered 94 mantra in 184, the s3 186, and have stent some time on the 187 Bonafide.  The S3 is such a fun playful ski in softer snow, but can still hold an edge on EC groomers if put on a high edge angle, but the tip flops like crazy and they need to be skiied centered b/c the rockered tail won't really finish turns in a traditional manner.  Lightning quick bump ski,and great in trees, for both hard or soft bumps.   At my size 205lbs I actually dislike these in any deeper snow thats not blower since they really don't float my weight and the tips bend too much causing them to feel hooky and unstable.  

 

I took the older Mantras out on an EC day that was after an rain freeze event and realized I forgot how much better a carver these are than the S3s   There is actually rebound and pop out of the turn.  Still was really fun in 6+ inches of "fresh" snowgun powder.  I realized that I really like characteristics of both of these skis, despite generally liking modern 5 point designs alot.  

 

The bonafide, despite being much stiffer than the S3, is still something of a tweener in this category for my weight.  MUCH more stable than the S3 in heavier snow, but the mild taper and rocker made them an easier bump ski than the Mantra.  Doesn't have the same pop out of turns that the Mantra does at speed.  Not nearly as playful as the S3.  This middle ground is probably why it is such a popular ski.

 

Ultimately, since I don't like the feel of the S3 in significant fresh snow, which is where they should be at their best, and my old Mantras are kind of shot with a cracked edge and coreshots, Ive decided to go a different direction.  Since I have a bigger day ski (Praxis Protest, and now Praxis GPO as a more versatile replacement) and like the GPOs in anything more than 2 inches of fresh, I picked up a 185 Nordica Hell and Back at a sick deal from the starthaus sale, and will use that to replace both of the 90mm class skis.  If I was looking for a 1 ski quiver and wanted to stay around that width, the Bonafide would be tough to beat.

 

Hope this helps

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Thank you all. That helped me.
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