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ski lenght for a frontside carver

post #1 of 13
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Hi,

I am shopping for a frontside carver that i can use for beer league racing (modified gs course). I am considering the head ss magnum but i am unsure about the length. I am 6' 195 lbs, advanced, 44 yrs old. Do i go for 170 or 177?

Thanks
Edited by eastern-bunny - 3/27/14 at 8:01pm
post #2 of 13

170, the second longest length; the 177 would be for the heaviest guys. 170 cm is long enough for a 13 m sidecut radius carving ski.

post #3 of 13
People's opinion differs quite a bit when it comes to ski length. We are the same size, and on a ski that's very similar (pretty much magnum without the chip), some say 176 is right, and some even say it's too short, so...

I think it'll depends on how fast can you expect to go on the course, SL speed go with shorter, GS speed go with longer.
post #4 of 13

Even controlling for skier size, ability, and habitual terrain, it depends hugely on the exact ski in question. There is a reason different models come in different length ranges. Start with that.

 

For example, you might have an SL-esque carver that comes in 155, 160, 165, 170; while a GS-esque carver from the same brand comes in 170, 175, 180, 185. I happen usually to fit well with the second-shortest in a model line. Therefore I would be on the 160 for one of the skis and a 175 on the other one. Make sense?

post #5 of 13

I'm a little lighter and on 23m full GS ski with a 176 length.   Works well for me, but I would likely be ok with the 186 27m length as well.  My SL is 165 and love it.

post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

People's opinion differs quite a bit when it comes to ski length. We are the same size, and on a ski that's very similar (pretty much magnum without the chip), some say 176 is right, and some even say it's too short, so...

I think it'll depends on how fast can you expect to go on the course, SL speed go with shorter, GS speed go with longer.


This is a 13 m radius ski (at 170 cm) if I am not mistaken.   In my opinion, If he wants GS speeds he should be on different ski (e.g. Head i. Speed), not a longer Head Supershape Magnum.

post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

People's opinion differs quite a bit when it comes to ski length. We are the same size, and on a ski that's very similar (pretty much magnum without the chip), some say 176 is right, and some even say it's too short, so...


I think it'll depends on how fast can you expect to go on the course, SL speed go with shorter, GS speed go with longer.


This is a 13 m radius ski (at 170 cm) if I am not mistaken.   In my opinion, If he wants GS speeds he should be on different ski (e.g. Head i. Speed), not a longer Head Supershape Magnum.

Right
post #8 of 13
Well I was thinking speed from recreational skiers perspective, not what you see in pro events.
post #9 of 13

Choose your speed and radius to match: Supershape Magnum, i. SL, i. SL RD,  i. Speed,  i GS RD,  GS RD M/W   (not to mention SG and DH).

post #10 of 13

Ghost is completely right about skis and lengths and radii, he's perhaps unaware that it's nearly impossible to locate an i Speed now, all sold out or at silly prices, and I honestly cannot see a 6' 195 lb guy on anything Sl-ish for beer league. Plus the 2014 Magnum is significantly softened over previous iterations. As is the i Speed, actually. May I humbly suggest to OP that he look at other brands if he wants something this spring? Plenty of options for a bigger guy, might begin with the Nordica or Fischer or Blizzard rec racer cheaters. Or wait until September and pay full ride for next year's Heads. The Rebel i GS's are very nice. Or take out a second mortgage and get some Stockli GS's or SX's, or Kastle RX's, any of which will leave an i Speed for dead in the snow. 

post #11 of 13
If you like a front side carver that falls somewhere inbetween SL/GS at you height, weight and skill, you may also consider short cheater GS skis such as the Head i.Speed, Racetiger, etc. in 170. It may fit the bill really well. You may find the SS Magnum a bit too turny for GS courses.
post #12 of 13

Put your stats into the Kastle calculator.  It came back with:

      RX-RS (straight GS) in 189

or:

      RX-12 (Combi SL & GS) in 184

 

Both are a lot longer than what you are thinking...   They may have recommended the RX-RS in 189 because that ski is available in almost any length -- as long as it's 189.   The RX-12 however comes in 
168cm- 15m

176cm  - 16.5m

184cm - 18m

 

(The calculator also came back with their RX-SL slalom in 166 -- but that does not sound applicable to your needs...)

 

http://www.kaestle-ski.com/en/product-finder/

post #13 of 13

SL radius ski at about 165 is good.

The question is do you really want a SL radius ski, or would you be happier with something closer to GS?

Good length for a cheater GS (e.g. Fischer RC4 WC RC Pro) would be 180 or maybe 185, depending, but getting a longer SL ain't gonna do it.

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