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Vladimir Putin immortalized by Big Sky by having a run named after him

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Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia, has had the dubious honour of having a new ski run named after him in the US resort of Big Sky. Dubious because the run, Putin, will join the Marx, the Lenin and the Castro pistes to form the area known as Dictators

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/skiing-news/10726506/The-Vladimir-Putin-run-unveiled-by-US-ski-resort.html

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Marx was not a dictator.  He held no political power at all.  Or do they mean Groucho?  He played a dictator in the movies.

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Marx was not a dictator.  He held no political power at all.  Or do they mean Groucho?  He played a dictator in the movies.

 

I believe that's Karl on bass:

 

 

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 The new run will be unveiled on April 1, and to celebrate the run's namesake there will be the inaugural Putin Shirtless Ski Race, combining some of Putin's favourite pastimes (skiing and taking his top off).

 

:beercheer: to whomever at Big Sky's marketing department that came up with that idea. 

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 The new run will be unveiled on April 1...

 

Hmmm... think it will remain named after Putin on the second?

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Marx was not a dictator.  He held no political power at all.  Or do they mean Groucho?  He played a dictator in the movies.

 

And Mr. Putin is a lot of things, but one of those things is an elected official. Obviously there is a lot of interference in the press and work to suppress political opposition in Putin's Russia, but by world standards, he has been elected repeatedly in what passes for fair elections.

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Marx was not a dictator.  He held no political power at all.  Or do they mean Groucho?  He played a dictator in the movies.

 

And Mr. Putin is a lot of things, but one of those things is an elected official. Obviously there is a lot of interference in the press and work to suppress political opposition in Putin's Russia, but by world standards, he has been elected repeatedly in what passes for fair elections.


As was Mr. Hitler.

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And Mr. Putin is a lot of things, but one of those things is an elected official. Obviously there is a lot of interference in the press and work to suppress political opposition in Putin's Russia, but by world standards, he has been elected repeatedly in what passes for fair elections.

 

I think it's pretty debatable how fair that last election was. Also, wasn't Stalin "elected"?

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I think it's pretty debatable how fair that last election was. Also, wasn't Stalin "elected"?

 

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As was Mr. Hitler.

 

Mr. Hitler was originally elected in what would be considered a fair election, but quickly removed any semblance of a fair electoral process once he assumed power.

 

Stalin was "elected," in a 1 party system where there was no choice for opposition and other political parties were outlawed, much like the "elections" in North Korea and in Saddam's Iraq.

 

No disagreement that Putin has taken some very alarming steps to limit his political opposition, but the opposition is both allowed to formally exist and legally be on the ballot. Yes, his actions to ensure that he or his favored token president are in power are concerning, but in my eyes he hasn't turned the corner to dictator, just a guy leading a country where the electoral rules are heavily stacked to favor the one in power. By world standards., he's elected.

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A dictator does not necessarily need to be installed, or to continue their dictatorship by extra democratic means.  It simply means that they get what they want through dictate.  I think Putin is quite eligible for the honor as long as you don't argue minute details.  The guy was almost a dictator even when he wasn't legally the head honcho.  I say the ski area is correct, and I hope that the run keeps its name after the first.  They've gotta get rid of Marx, though.  He's not deserving.  How about Idi Amin?

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No Pol Pot?:dunno

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No Pol Pot?:dunno

 

Or since we are debating it, Stalin and Hitler?

post #13 of 18

Godwin's law happened fast here.

post #14 of 18
Had to look that up. Learned something.
post #15 of 18

I nominate @Cirquerider for Dictator of EpicSki :D

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Well, as I understand it someone or something must be compared to Hitler in order to invoke Godwin's Law.  I don't think we got to a comparison in the usual fashion, but we could stretch it a bit I suppose.

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Well, we could come up with even more offensive and tasteless names for ski trails.  How about naming them after celebrities that died skiing?  Sonny Glades?:duck:

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