Originally Posted by jaobrien6
If I didn't have AWD, I would have had to chain up about 1/4 of the times I went skiing this year. That's certainly worth it for me. I realize that's not the norm for the general public but nothing we talk about on this site would be considered normal by most people.
While I agree AWD isn't a requirement for most winter driving, its not like buying an AWD car is exorbitantly more than a FWD. Compare the costs of Subarus to makes of similar reliability (Honda, Toyota, etc.) and the AWD is essentially free. This goes double and triple in the used market when Subarus depreciate faster than stuff with Toyota badges and you can get a Subaru of similar vintage and milage for 30-70% less than the Toyota.
The last non-Subaru I bought was in 2000, but I wouldn't consider myself a single brand buyer. Every time I go looking for a new vehicle, I have several others that I look for (Stuff like the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe) and yet I repeatedly find the best deal is another Subaru.
Buying new vehicles, it helps that Heuberger Subaru is in my neck of the woods. They are the highest volume Subaru dealer in the US, and they do it by selling them as close to cost as one can. When I bought mine, they started from invoice, then gave me back their 2% holdback, their marketing incentive, and manufacturer incentive, and were very honest that the only money they would make on the sale would come from the volume bonus they get. This was with no negotiation- this was the figure they gave me up front about what they would sell any car in the lot for.
Their numbers on invoice, holdback, and incentives matched my independently researched numbers, so I came in expecting to get told somewhere along the line that the deal had changed- it seemed way too good to be true. Zero issues, I signed and drove it home. A few weeks later, my sister did the same, only she flew out from Atlanta to buy the car and drive it home after Atlanta dealers wouldn't even get close enough to the Heuberger offer to defray the transportation and hassle of driving the car across the country- they wanted 5k more for the same car.
So yes, I keep coming back to Subaru. and have never been let down. Except for that snapped camshaft deal. That was on a 1990 Legacy that I paid $800 for. I only put 30,000 miles on it before that happened and felt cheated to have one die at 160,000 miles. It was probably repairable, but it would cost more than the investment I had in the car at that point. I had a 1987 GL that got to about 270,000 before a high pressure oil seal in the camshaft area let go (would have been repairable but a pain), and the only others that stopped running did so because somebody hit and destroyed them. That was the fate of a 1985 GL with 220,000, and a 1996 Outback with 150,000. These cars are awesome. Toyota-style reliability at a Chevy price.