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BRAND NEW Kastle MX83 for sale

post #1 of 17
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No longer available for sale.

Bill
Edited by Sugarloafer321 - 3/24/14 at 1:11pm
post #2 of 17

sorry but if the skis are drilled and you skied them on 2 runs they are not BRAND NEW skis! Best case scenario they are used skis in "like new" condition!

 

please change you post title to reflect what you are really trying to sell! 

post #3 of 17

Yup....drilled means not new.

post #4 of 17

"Newly Drilled"?

 

Perhaps the tune is bad? I find it hard to believe you have such difficulty with the non rockered MX 83 compared to the barely rockered FX 94. Maybe it's the round versus square tail.

post #5 of 17

My MX83's when new were railed.  A quick tune fixed them up!

 

Mike

post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by Sugarloafer321 View Post

183cm with brand new Marker Jester bindings. I own a pair of FX84 and FX94s and love them. However, I've only skied rockered skis and can't ski a fully cambered ski to save my life.

Skis are MINT. Skied them on 2 runs and went back to my FX94. No dings, no blems, no issues whatsoever.

Asking $1k shipped obro. Mounted for a 329 BSL. Please email me directly with questions at: wtb@williamblylaw.com

Bill

 

Something just doesn't seem right about the explanation of why you don't like the MX83.

 

My MX83 is my hard pack ski and full camber on hard snow is preferred over rocker in these conditions. Maybe the ski needs a tuneup.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

Unfortunately, I can't edit the title.  I can only edit the body of the original post.  However, I think EVERYONE now understands the difference between brand new and like new.  

 

As for "something doesn't seem right about the explanation", what more of an explanation do you need?  I took 2 runs.  I couldn't figure them out.  I only ski rockered skis.  This is a fully cambered ski.  The difference in feel between this ski and my rockered FXs is night and day.  Could there be an issue with the tune?  Absolutely.  Even Kastle sends skis out that are a little railed once in a while.  Is this the issue?  I don't really know.  I'll probably run a true bar along the bases this week to check them out.  If they are railed, I'll bring them in to my shop to have the bases flattened and to reset the bevels.  This was an issue on a brand new pair of Heads that I had bought brand new earlier this year.  However, I still ended up selling the skis to another forum member.

 

Quite frankly, the reason I bought these skis was based solely on the awesome reviews I've seen on this site.  If the issue is due to a railed ski, well that's easy to fix.  If that ends up being the issue then I will keep the ski (assuming I like the way it skis).  But back to the issue of camber vs. rocker.  Am I crazy to think that a fully cambered ski feels completely different than a rockered ski?  I really had a hard time initiating my turns with this ski.  I just couldn't figure it out and was skidding more than carving.  It was very frustrating, which is why I grabbed my other FXs for the rest of the day (and had a blast).  Maybe I need to adjust my stance?  I ski with my feet together (old school).  Would I have better results widening my stance?

 

Anyway, I'm not sure why everyone on this forum feels the need to act like board police and start slamming posters and their posts.  There are so many nicer ways to address a posting mistake than what I've seen.  There is a real "holier than thou" element on this board that is strikingly similar to what I've seen on TGR, which is really such a shame.

 

If anyone has anything constructive to say as opposed to trashing my posting b/c I listed this ski as brand new, please feel free to post on here. 

post #8 of 17

Ill trade you straight up for pair of 173cm Mx83....... seriously mine feel alittle short. 

post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Sugarloafer321 View Post
 

Unfortunately, I can't edit the title.  I can only edit the body of the original post.  However, I think EVERYONE now understands the difference between brand new and like new.  

 

As for "something doesn't seem right about the explanation", what more of an explanation do you need?  I took 2 runs.  I couldn't figure them out.  I only ski rockered skis.  This is a fully cambered ski.  The difference in feel between this ski and my rockered FXs is night and day.  Could there be an issue with the tune?  Absolutely.  Even Kastle sends skis out that are a little railed once in a while.  Is this the issue?  I don't really know.  I'll probably run a true bar along the bases this week to check them out.  If they are railed, I'll bring them in to my shop to have the bases flattened and to reset the bevels.  This was an issue on a brand new pair of Heads that I had bought brand new earlier this year.  However, I still ended up selling the skis to another forum member.

 

Quite frankly, the reason I bought these skis was based solely on the awesome reviews I've seen on this site.  If the issue is due to a railed ski, well that's easy to fix.  If that ends up being the issue then I will keep the ski (assuming I like the way it skis).  But back to the issue of camber vs. rocker.  Am I crazy to think that a fully cambered ski feels completely different than a rockered ski?  I really had a hard time initiating my turns with this ski.  I just couldn't figure it out and was skidding more than carving.  It was very frustrating, which is why I grabbed my other FXs for the rest of the day (and had a blast).  Maybe I need to adjust my stance?  I ski with my feet together (old school).  Would I have better results widening my stance?

 

Anyway, I'm not sure why everyone on this forum feels the need to act like board police and start slamming posters and their posts.  There are so many nicer ways to address a posting mistake than what I've seen.  There is a real "holier than thou" element on this board that is strikingly similar to what I've seen on TGR, which is really such a shame.

 

If anyone has anything constructive to say as opposed to trashing my posting b/c I listed this ski as brand new, please feel free to post on here. 

 

 

feet touching = old school

feet together just = good skiing.

 

there is a huge difference. 

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post
 

Ill trade you straight up for pair of 173cm Mx83....... seriously mine feel alittle short. 

maybe this is the issue here.  I have heard these ski very long.  Maybe OP should take a few more runs and try to adjust to them a little more

post #11 of 17

There is a simple solution to this situation that will make everyone happy.

 

Sugarloafer321 here has apparently bought three new pairs of Kaestles and a pair of Heads in the last year. He clearly has enough dough on hand to hire Josh to drive over to the River and coach him for a day, including gas money and a big tip. (Cut the Sunday River ski school in on the deal if that's part of the rules.) During that time they can swap skis and see if they want to trade lengths (although Lawyer Bill is a really big guy, so I can see how he ended up on the 183). Maybe they can talk about whether this is a ski that makes sense for Bill to be on in terms of his skills development trajectory. One guy will get a great ski lesson and the other guy will get to take his girlfriend out to a nice dinner. Good stuff all around.

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 

Qcanoe hit the nail on the head!  Josh and I should hook up for some skiing!  Anyway, I'm not going to sell the skis.  I took a true bar to them today and they are a bit railed.  Not terribly railed but the bases need to be flattened and the edge bevels reset.  I've heard so many good things about the skis that I had to buy them!!!  I just wonder if part of the problem I'm having is that a fully cambered ski just skis differently.  I do tend to put a lot of front tongue pressure when skiing with the FXs but not nearly as much with a pair of Volkl RTM84s.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong technique-wise with the MXs.

 

When I ski the FXs, I'm in Nirvana.  I'm able to snap off quick turns and vary the shape of my turns easily.  I couldn't do that with the MX83 and maybe it was due to the bases being railed and I'm guessing, a poor tune job.  I will say that I had this same issue with the Head skis earlier this year.  I got the bases flattened and the edges reset and it was like skiing a whole different ski.  Perhaps that is the same issue here.

 

Thanks for bringing this stuff to my attention as I tend to miss the forest for the trees.  If I get out on them again this year I'll give another report.  Otherwise, it's likely I'll be skiing the FXs for the remainder of the season since the snow is really softening up.

 

Qcanoe... we should definitely hook up for a ski day soon.  I'm looking at next Thursday to day-trip up to Sugarloaf.  The courts are on administrative week next week and closed for all matters except in-custody arraignments.  I should be freed up to ski for the end of the week.


Bill

post #13 of 17

Just a suggestion:

 

There seems to be a tendency of skiers with rockered skis to have a more backward stance, perhaps that may be your issue.

Rockered skis are easier to turn, I hope that you stick with the MX83's and hopefully get the benefits of a fully cambered ski.

 

Best of luck, may you find your ski nirvana!

post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
The only time I go back seat is when I get tossed whthere skiing the moguls smile.gif

Anyway, I ski with a LOT of forward pressure on my FXs while more center stance on my Volkl RTM84s.

Thanks for the well wishes! I'm hoping that bringing them to the shop to flatten the bases and reset the bevels will make a difference.

Bill
post #15 of 17

a little bit off "railed" will go a long way to making ski very hard to do any non edge locked turn on. 

post #16 of 17

Glad to hear you're getting the ski fixed. Do you have a reliable shop? Actually had an FX mis tuned and ski somewhat horribly because of a non flat base.

There is no way there is that much difference between the slight rocker of the new FX's and the MX. Once flattened and properly base beveled  it should be miles better than that Frankenski- the Volkl Rtm. :)

 

So the money spent on the shop and the time for minor abuse here will lead to learning and disabusing yourself of the notion you can't ski a non rockered ski. That would have cost a lot to do with a ski psychologist.

post #17 of 17

Is the RTM that bad? Had not been on a Volkl in 10 years and demoed a Code at Sun Valley and enjoyed it in the typical SV rock hard conditions. The grey one. 

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