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Head Rock n Roll ... Anyone Played with Mounting Position?

post #1 of 11
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I got my first 2 days in on a pair of Head Rock n Roll skis ... really had a ball on them, especially in soft bumps!  I have Griffon Schizos on them, so can move the mounting position around easily.  Just wondering if anyone has played with the mounting position on these, and if there were any revelations about the impact of mounting more forward.

post #2 of 11

I've only moved the mounting position .5 cm (forward) when I adjusted Marker Dukes to fit a slightly smaller boot. I personally didn't feel a difference, but you might with larger moves. What do you want to change about how they handle?

 

The thing that made the biggest difference for me was setting the bevel and sharpening the edges. I don't know what the factory tune was at, but after setting the base/edge to 1/2 myself, I found myself much happier.

post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post
 

What do you want to change about how they handle?

Don't have anything specific, more just wondering if others have had any experiences that would make it worth trying a certain different position.  Might play with it a bit next year just because the Schizos make it easy to do so.

 

The thing that made the biggest difference for me was setting the bevel and sharpening the edges. I don't know what the factory tune was at, but after setting the base/edge to 1/2 myself, I found myself much happier.

Were you unhappy with the edge grip originally before tuning to 1/2?  Any impact on release from edge/turn in tight spaces with the increase in edge grip?

post #4 of 11

I wasn't perfectly happy with the edge grip, but even more was that I found one ski hooking up when carving more than I was used to. Now some of that was surely user error with a new ski, but after the tune I found I had better and more consistent edge grip.

 

No problems at all releasing in tight spaces. I've skied both bumps and very tight trees and they've performed admirably.

post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post

 

No problems at all releasing in tight spaces. I've skied both bumps and very tight trees and they've performed admirably.

Good to know ... would not want to lose that characteristic after a different tune.  LOVED this ski in soft bumps.

post #6 of 11

Head skis - in particular the wider freeride boards - have occasionally been reported as having a sub-par tune straight out of the box.  Checking for a perfectly flat base, and setting angles for base and side edges is a good idea, and sounds like you're happier with the skis since they received a proper tune.  1 degree base and 2 degrees side is the standard option.  

 

I own a pair of Mojo 94s (precursor to the Rock'n'Roll, with metal) and a lot of people swear by setting them at 1/3.  I changed the side angle to 3 degrees on mine and the difference in hard snow grip was noticeable.  In soft snow it won't make a difference.

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post
 

Head skis - in particular the wider freeride boards - have occasionally been reported as having a sub-par tune straight out of the box.  Checking for a perfectly flat base, and setting angles for base and side edges is a good idea, and sounds like you're happier with the skis since they received a proper tune.  1 degree base and 2 degrees side is the standard option.  

 

I own a pair of Mojo 94s (precursor to the Rock'n'Roll, with metal) and a lot of people swear by setting them at 1/3.  I changed the side angle to 3 degrees on mine and the difference in hard snow grip was noticeable.  In soft snow it won't make a difference.

 

ALL new skis have a "sub-par" tune and can benefit from a good tune by someone who actually knows what they are doing.:beercheer:

post #8 of 11
And the important part is this bit  "... who actually knows what they are doing."
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the info. on tuning ... definitely will take the advice.  Any additional info. on experimentation with binding mounting points and the on-the-snow results?

post #10 of 11

What do you hope to gain by moving the binding position forward? If you had a blast in bumps the lats time you were out, it doesn't sound like you need the possibly quicker response and increased pivotability at the expense of some stability when cutting through variable snow. How big are you? I'm 6'2" 180lbs on the 187s. I wouldn't be too worried about going a bit farther forward as the skis are plenty stable for me at that size. If I had the 180 I imagine I'd still be fine at the recommended line, but I'd be more hesitant to move forward.

 

You have Schizos though, so you can try all of this out really easily. I'll be eager to hear your findings.

post #11 of 11
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As mentioned above, there is no specific thing I am trying to address ... it's more just a question of having the Schizos on the skis, so it would be easy to experiment.  I just wondered if anyone else had tried a different mounting point and , if so, what results they saw.  I will probably play a bit with this since the Schizos make it so easy, but it will likely have to wait until next season!

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