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Mind, Body, Technique and Equipment. Which has been corrected to help your skiing?

Poll Results: How many of the 4 have been addressed to help in your skiing by either a coach, instructor (cerrtified), instructor (casual). Select all that apply.

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 55% of voters (10)
    Mind
  • 38% of voters (7)
    Body
  • 88% of voters (16)
    Technique
  • 44% of voters (8)
    Equipment
18 Total Votes  
post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

A recent thread brought this to light and I'm curious as to what has been done for skiers to help their skiing ability.

 

Mind is preventing the next progression  (ie. fear)

 

Body issues your body is causes to make skiing difficult (ie. one leg shorter)

 

Technique (should be self explanatory)

 

Equipment....boot fitting, edges, wrong skis etc.

 

If you can make comments as to the problem(s) and the fix(es) along with who made them.

 

BTW instructors (casual) are friends/family or other well meaning skiers who are not trained as ski instructors.

post #2 of 13

For me it's been the mind.  Not overcoming fear, but rather letting go of control (in order to gain another type of control).  Reading "Inner skiing" by W. Timothy Gawley and Robert Kriegl, as well as "In the Yikes zone" by Mermer Blakeslee really helped me open my eyes on what my body can really do if I let it, if I stop controlling it at every turn, keep my mind quiet and let the body do what it already knows how. That's when I had most of my "Aha" and "That was awesome!" moments in skiing.

post #3 of 13

Great survey oldschoolskier!

 

I would add clarification on a couple things.  the "mind" part also contains the element of INTENT TO TURN and is likely the larger issue skiers face psychologically once they are past the beginner anxieties.  Intent to turn has been discussed here many times before and is either a "GO" offensive intent to turn using direction vs. friction to control speed.

 

The equipment factor is more about angles and alignment vs. fit for comfort.  There are 10 important parameters discussed elsewhere which affect skiing performance, balance, edging and turning abilities.

post #4 of 13

For me, mind & technique are huge (now that the boots are more or less sorted!).  

 

I work with instructors on technique, but starting late (47) interferes with fear control — when conditions get cruddy at speed, for instance, I'm thinking about catching an edge when I should be flying.  Bumps and trees?  I'll take a lesson first.  Caution is useful, but it can make bad skiing.  I'll look in to the books turbocbr mentions.

post #5 of 13

Mind - I've been a major head case all my life in my athletic endeavors. With the help of instructors and by myself I always work on keeping my head out of the way, or from the other side, getting it in the right place. "Ski it like you mean it!"

 

Body - Years of athletic endeavors has left me with many little nagging short comings. This is mostly me fixing myself and amounts to learning how to manage my various pains and mobility challenges.

 

Technique - I usually ski Breck and use the Lesson Pass. I ski with an instructor almost every day I'm on the mountain there. (think ski CLUB rather than ski SCHOOL) This has clearly been a tremendous factor in my improvement over the years. Even before I started that I would take a lesson every couple of years just to improve some aspect of my skiing and get "swing thoughts" I could keep with me all the time.

 

Equipment - Mostly me, but also have taken input from both formal and casual instructors alike. This too has been both fun, in terms of feeling the differences, but also has improved my skiing as well.

post #6 of 13

Flawed poll.  All 4 for me.  And while you can pick all four, the poll tracker doesn't identify that folk picked multiple options.

 

Mike

post #7 of 13

Here's the thing about TEPP, as athletes we should be constantly assessing and revisiting each of these areas to minimize issues in each, because if you are not winning world cups or extreme contest you can likely improve.  In fact I promise you even Ted, Linsdey, Julia, and Mikaela are all constantly working on these four areas to eek every last advantage they can get.  The question is, how committed are you to improving your skiing performance?

 

Don't think because you had your boots fitted or added a heel lift, that your equipment is spot on because trust me, it's not.  Just because you have no fear doesn't mean your intent to turn is as offensive as it could be.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

FURTHER INFORMATION

 

The poll wasn't intended to track those picking multiple options, just what is being correct for the most part. Instead of complex survey this simple survey gives a view of what is corrected and more importantly the comments describe why, how and by whom (no need to point fingers ;)).   The finer details (and there are lots) can be easily discussed once we have a good sampling of skiers as it gives a good focus as to direction these discussions should take.

 

BTW bud, deserves credit for giving me the idea for this poll as the TEPP concept (which I greatly simplified in the working in the title) is what its all about.

post #9 of 13

For me it's been a focus on technique and equipment.

Fear hasn't had too much of a presence and I have my own ways of dealing with that anyway; so far the body is ok.

 

The poll asks about what has been corrected by others.  

It hasn't been other people who brought this stuff to me, but me choosing to learn it or get it on my own by probing what others know.  

 

Thanks, Epicski, for being an important part of that process.

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

I've added my vote to the survey.

 

Technique

 

Dad...Austrian...old school....still influences my skiing today.

Really Old Ski Bum Instructor. Sutton. Drills taught in Sutton Quebec still help me today (boy could this guy ski, drink and womanize (I know not politically correct, but that was a long time ago).

Young High Level Instructor, Banff, Inside ski turns at high speed.   Balance and commitment (it was a commit, do it right or crash drill).

 

Finally, every top level racer that came along (and still does, currently Ligty), figure out what they do to go fast.  Adapt it and copy it.

 

Bud's comments re the whole TEPP package just point to how much better I could have been at this point had the other issues been addressed.

post #11 of 13

Mind, followed by Technique, followed by Equipment.

 

Intent to turn/slow line fast/whatever you want to call is a huge mental hurdle for a skier to cross. EpicSki helped immensely with that, as did my father in law, who is an excellent and graceful skier with great line selection. Not skiing defensively has freed up my mind to think much more intently on technique...help on my has come from my wife, a former racer, and EpicSki again.

 

And modern equipment is just better. I am slow at upgrading and always convince myself that my skis have ONE more season in them. Every time someone convinces me otherwise, I am stunned at the increase in the quality of my skiing experiences. 

post #12 of 13

Your ability to ski is directly correlated with how hard you are willing to fall. Whether people answer it in your poll or not, you MUST overcome what you THINK are your limitations. Equipment, body, and technique may assist you in your quest to become a better skier but as with all things in life you have to believe that you can do something in order to improve.

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Sundin View Post
 

Your ability to ski is directly correlated with how hard you are willing to fall. Whether people answer it in your poll or not, you MUST overcome what you THINK are your limitations. Equipment, body, and technique may assist you in your quest to become a better skier but as with all things in life you have to believe that you can do something in order to improve.

That sounds "psychological"

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