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Snowbird: Where's the intermediate stuff?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Question for folks familiar with Snowbird/Alta, just in case Mr. Delta and I don't manage to hook up with other ESA people coming a bit early....

I've finally (!!) looked at a Snowbird trail map. Holy cow.... that looks like some pretty advanced terrain. (Or maybe not.... I dunno. It's been my experience that a blue trail at a western ski resort would definitely rate a black at some eastern resorts. In any case, there seems to be a whole lotta double blacks at Snowbird.)

If I just want to get my ski legs going, what are some good intermediate trails? Recommendations?

[ January 07, 2004, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: delta888 ]
post #2 of 21
I'm interested in that too. Some of the steeper stuff at Stowe (Tune Up) stymied my learning processes because I was too busy in the Yikes Zone to concentrate on anything but survival!

I missed the day everyone went to Snowbird at Academy last year (I was sick), but I heard from better skiers that I should be thankful I stayed back that day.

Are there nice blue cruisers to learn on at the Bird?

[ January 07, 2004, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Bonni ]
post #3 of 21
I know you'll get suggestions from others, but my suggestion would be to stick to the greens to start. Big Emma is a nice, wide run that is much like a blue at other places. Some of the greens in Mineral Bowl may be along those lines, too (I haven't skied back there).
post #4 of 21
Will my ego let me ski green runs again?

Yep. :
post #5 of 21
Also, keep in mind I THINK we are allowed to use both Alta and Snowbird for the Academy, and Alta definitely has some good intermediate terrain.

The manager I used to work for is a high intermediate skier, but she she almost divorced her husband for taking her to Snowbird last year. She ended up staying in the lodge for most of the day.

But of course, she did not have the academy coaches to help improve her technique and confidence! :
post #6 of 21
If you stick to the Wilbere and Gad Valley areas (Wilbere chair for warmups, Gadzoom high speed and Gad 2 lifts), there are some blue runs that, with good snow (which you're sure to have)are quite nice and friendly. There are some interesting pitches and fall lines - not intimidating though. The top of Big Emma is the bluest green I've ever skied and a great warmer-upper. Harper's Ferry off the Wilbere chair is usually groomed and is an easy black. There is nothing easy off of the tram (except some of Mineral Basin). On a sunny day, Chip's is OK but can be pretty intimidating in poor visibility if you aren't familiar with the area.

Once the academy starts, I'm sure your instructors will take you to some interesting places, and there are plenty of them!

You all are in for a real treat!
post #7 of 21
Alta should be an easier start than Snowbird.

Alta
* If you are unsure, park at the Albion Base and take the
initial lift to the base of SugarLoaf lift. Devil's Elbow
(off Sugarloaf) and Rock-n-Roll (off Supreme) are good
starters, followed by Roller Coaster and the
blues on the Wildcat side (take the cat track to the right
from the top of Sugarloaf. Couple of blue side trails of
Supreme to do if you're over there.

Snowbird:
* Unless you are staying at Snowbird, park at the GadValley
lift area. Big Emma and the blues off of GadZoom, Gad2 and the
short one off of Wilbere should ok. The bottom of Bassackwards
is a little steeper - then work over to Chip's Run.

Because we had only skied a couple of times with our kids we almost skipped Snowbird, but our kids liked the GadValley runs and loved the whole Alta area.
post #8 of 21
Alta is definitely a better place to get started, the whole area is much easier to navigate than Snowbird, and blues are easily found off of virtually every chair. (And when you get your confidence up, there's plenty of VERY challenging terrain for ya!)

If you are set on Snowbird, ride Gadzoom and Gad 2, as mentioned earlier, and if you take the tram, there's the greens in Mineral, and Chip's Run down the front, and each are well marked.

As much as I like the Bird, I LOVE Alta. Its a special place. I'm sure you'll have fun no matter where you ski!

Liz
post #9 of 21
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
post #10 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by Xdog:
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
From a prior post:

Quote:
Eh, sounds like average to below average progress.
On my 3rd day on skis at age 9 (K2 Merlins, 200+ cm.), I was running icy bump zipper lines, finishing the run with inverted airs, and waist deep pow in tight trees.
These two posts add up to you being about 14 years old. My, you've accomplished alot at such a young age.
post #11 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by Xdog:
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
which 85%?
post #12 of 21
post #13 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by Xdog:
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
:
post #14 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by delta888:
. . . what are some good intermediate trails?
There aren't any intermediate trails, why do you ask. :

Might I suggest you give me your spot and stay home.

Just think of all the money and aggravation you'll save. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

<font color = red>Mad!!!</font> You should see that Xdog ski, my god. I am positively here t' tell ya, Warren Miller's gonna beat his door down after the show that boy put on here in December. Jeepers

Plus, I promise to write a really, really nice trip report for you to put in your scrap book. [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img]

Yours truly,

IG
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Inspector G, if I give up my spot, I'm just punting on the question until next year....

Hey, thanks everyone! We're staying at the Lodge because we didn't want to rent a car. Since we'll probably still be jetlagged, we may not be able to catch up with the rest of the folks on Powder Mtn.

Quote:
Also, keep in mind I THINK we are allowed to use both Alta and Snowbird for the Academy, and Alta definitely has some good intermediate terrain.
Are the lift tickets at Snowbird and Alta interchangable?

(I assume the ESA lift tickets are for Mon-Thurs, right? So we'll be getting separate tickets for Sunday and Friday.)

Anyway, the Intermediate experience stuff that Nolo found looks like just the ticket -- or, since many people seem to have mentioned the beauty of Alta, perhaps we'll go there. We may join the guided tour at 10am.

In any case, Mr. Delta has skied Snowbird before, and he said that when he last was there, he didn't think he skied as well as I am now, and he did find things to ski. We'll see. At any rate, I have utterly no ego with respect to terrain -- I'll be happy as a clam skiing greens and enjoying beautiful *mountains* instead of tiny, icy, crowded Ontario hills.
post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by Coach13:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xdog:
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
From a prior post:

Quote:
Eh, sounds like average to below average progress.
On my 3rd day on skis at age 9 (K2 Merlins, 200+ cm.), I was running icy bump zipper lines, finishing the run with inverted airs, and waist deep pow in tight trees.
These two posts add up to you being about 14 years old. My, you've accomplished alot at such a young age. </font>[/quote]Exactly right! Don't let the full beard and bald spot fool ya!
[img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #17 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by Xdog:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Coach13:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xdog:
I've only been skiing 5 years, and on my 1st trip to the bird, I skied 85% of the mountain.

Not braggin', I'm just mad :
From a prior post:

Quote:
Eh, sounds like average to below average progress.
On my 3rd day on skis at age 9 (K2 Merlins, 200+ cm.), I was running icy bump zipper lines, finishing the run with inverted airs, and waist deep pow in tight trees.
These two posts add up to you being about 14 years old. My, you've accomplished alot at such a young age. </font>[/quote]Exactly right! Don't let the full beard and bald spot fool ya!
[img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] </font>[/quote]
post #18 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by delta888:
Inspector G, if I give up my spot, I'm just punting on the question until next year....

Hey, thanks everyone! We're staying at the Lodge because we didn't want to rent a car. Since we'll probably still be jetlagged, we may not be able to catch up with the rest of the folks on Powder Mtn.

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Also, keep in mind I THINK we are allowed to use both Alta and Snowbird for the Academy, and Alta definitely has some good intermediate terrain.
Are the lift tickets at Snowbird and Alta interchangable?

(I assume the ESA lift tickets are for Mon-Thurs, right? So we'll be getting separate tickets for Sunday and Friday.)

Anyway, the Intermediate experience stuff that Nolo found looks like just the ticket -- or, since many people seem to have mentioned the beauty of Alta, perhaps we'll go there. We may join the guided tour at 10am.

In any case, Mr. Delta has skied Snowbird before, and he said that when he last was there, he didn't think he skied as well as I am now, and he did find things to ski. We'll see. At any rate, I have utterly no ego with respect to terrain -- I'll be happy as a clam skiing greens and enjoying beautiful *mountains* instead of tiny, icy, crowded Ontario hills.
</font>[/quote]I usually like to explore other resorts when I go to Utah, but given that the opening party is at Snowbird, the Intermedaite Experience may be a good pre academy warmup. My one concern would be finding other people who would take the tour as slowly as Ii would take it.
post #19 of 21
I was thinking that the Intermediate experience looked good too. We may see you there Lisamarie and delta888.

Casey
post #20 of 21
My hubby raised a good question to me, so I throw it to the organizers for an answer.

For those of us skiing Snowbird/Alta before and after the academy, are we eligible for discounts on lift tickets? Or can we pay to change our 4 day lift ticket to a 5 day ticket?

Thanks folks,
Casey
post #21 of 21
If you want a 5-day pass, let me know by MONDAY, Jan. 19. I will be paying for these passes in advance. The upgrade will cost $40.
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