Some interesting thoughts here. Sure sounds like everyone had a great experience at the ETU and is coming back with a resounding: We want more!
Do I hear that right?
How many people were in your group? For that matter, how many people were in each of the different groups? Would this have been a practical arrangement? Obviously something clicked for you that last five minutes. Was it because you were one on one? Might it have been possible that the very same thing could have benefitted others in the group had they been present to experience it also? In the end, would you have received more or less instruction overall on Sunday?
This is the second time since returning from ETU that I've heard of a more private type scenario outlined, and I guess I just don't get it. My understanding of the Epic academy concept is to bring the students world class coaches at an inexpensive cost to the student (ie. large bang for the buck), so it doesn't seem that privates would be practical in that sense. Example: Less than a month ago I took a 1/2 day private with such a world class coach and it cost more than ETU tuition - no instruction the first part of the day, no lift tik for the next day, no dinner, no instruction the second day - although I will admit that I did get additional evening follow-up, but it was not a regular part of the resort program. I'm not saying privates are wrong, I'll take more. I just think Epic events are a different animal - different, not better or worse.
I think group lessons cut both ways. When I went to ESA and ETU I expected (and accepted) to be in group setting - knowing this wasn't a one on one lesson exclusively for me. So I traded an individual focused lesson specifically for me, for a group environment that cost me less. Did I learn less because of this? I don't think so. Even when my coach wasn't working with me, I was able to be involved when they were working with the others in the group and I was able to learn from their focus and feedback, as well as receive feedback on my skiing from them as well. In the afternoon Sunday, I broke from my group and shadowed another that my wife and a friend were in, and even the though the coach didn't work with me at all, I was able to learn from them as they worked with the group, or individuals in the group, and from the responses they got back. So I guess when I compare this to the 1/2 day private I had, I don't feel that I received any less coaching, but I don't think that would be the case had we rotated thru our coach doing mini privates.
Geez, sorry, that got longer than I meant it to! Hopefully some of the pro's or organizers will weigh in on this issue.
|Originally posted by Skidmo:
I'll throw out a couple...I think it would be interesting to have break out sessions either in addition to or in lieu of the general presentation we had after the first day of skiing. It would have been great to have smaller sessions on simple ski care, pre-season conditioning, alignment or other topics. As I recall, the Academy did some of this and I don't see why it couldn't work for the ETU.
|Originally posted by skierteach:
Perhaps having some of the workshop type things people mentioned in this thread available to people the night before the ETU begins or adding a 3rd day to the ETU (If we know in advance, many of us can plan accordingly to take a personal or vacation day to attach to either day of the weekend). The 3rd day could be optional and could include the 1:1 time with the instructors and review and critique of our videos, with ski time to be with some of the participants we really didn't get to ski with or even meet that much because we were in our groups. This way, one of the two nights could be used for different related workshops and there would still be time for the banquet.
|Originally posted by Lisamarie:
Hey Skidmo! I think for ETU, time was essential. While we had some of the things you mention at the academy, it was also 4 days long. I think over a weekend, people would like to get as much snow time as possible.
I agree with LM's statement that time was essential .... keep it on the snow! Seems like it would be really tough to squeeze all that into essentially one night. With many arriving late Friday and/or departing immediately at the end of the day Sunday, that pretty much put it all on Saturday.
Should the tune-up events be longer? Or are they, by definition, a fundamental curriculum limited in scope - geared towards getting you on the right track to start the season?
My recollection of the discussions from last year concerning an event in the east are that many respondents:
-desired an event to include participants that could not make the trek to the west
-wanted a weekend program:
--for educators or students that couldn't take time off during the season
--for those that didn't have/couldn't burn vacation
-wanted coaching relating to the eastern conditions and terrain they deal with (did that ever work out!)
-a lower cost program than the 4 day event
Did I recall these correctly?
|Originally posted by Lisamarie:
In addition, maybe we can have one brave group a day show their video to all the attendees.
But not our group! [img]redface.gif[/img]
Come on LM .... I'll agree if you will
Guess I see it a bit differently, so fire away ....