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post #1 of 18
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Family with young kids have just taken up skiing this season.   Rentals are killing us.  My plan is old stock new for the adults and either that or swap shop for the kids.

 

I am 5'2 160 lbs (yes I know I am packing a bit) 49 years old.   Our last trip was 3 days at holiday valley we had a great time.

 

We want to make this a family activity next season.

 

Boots are high on my priority list, my feet are short, wide and instep high - so it will be off to a shop to have that sorted out, rentals are real cripplers for me.

 

I am hoping for some advice on skis for my wife and I.  She is a little taller than I and 30 lbs lighter.

 

we will be skiing Ontario, new York and Quebec with our kids 8 through 12.  I should think groomed trails and lots of hard packed stuff and icy - if I have not correctly assessed the state of the snow in these areas please chime in.   I am cautious and do not feel any great need for speed.

 

I saw what i thought looked like a good  deal on head peak 72 ski's (150 mm long) and was thinking of these for myself and maybe my wife.   Does this make sense,  does anyone have other suggestions.   I don't really want to mess around with rentals because my priority is to organize my small army of kids and get out on the slopes and not to be messing around in rental shops for six people every time we go out.  I am also trying not to break the bank too badly.

 

Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.

post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by raff View Post
 

Family with young kids have just taken up skiing this season.   Rentals are killing us.  My plan is old stock new for the adults and either that or swap shop for the kids.

 

I am 5'2 160 lbs (yes I know I am packing a bit) 49 years old.   Our last trip was 3 days at holiday valley we had a great time.

 

We want to make this a family activity next season.

 

Boots are high on my priority list, my feet are short, wide and instep high - so it will be off to a shop to have that sorted out, rentals are real cripplers for me.

 

I am hoping for some advice on skis for my wife and I.  She is a little taller than I and 30 lbs lighter.

 

we will be skiing Ontario, new York and Quebec with our kids 8 through 12.  I should think groomed trails and lots of hard packed stuff and icy - if I have not correctly assessed the state of the snow in these areas please chime in.   I am cautious and do not feel any great need for speed.

 

I saw what i thought looked like a good  deal on head peak 72 ski's (150 mm long) and was thinking of these for myself and maybe my wife.   Does this make sense,  does anyone have other suggestions.   I don't really want to mess around with rentals because my priority is to organize my small army of kids and get out on the slopes and not to be messing around in rental shops for six people every time we go out.  I am also trying not to break the bank too badly.

 

Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to EpicSki!  Sounds like you all had a good time on the snow.

 

Ski swaps are a good idea for the kids.  A season rental is another possibility, especially for the younger ones who might grow out of something during the ski season.

 

Check out the ideas here from Family Skiing if you haven't already:

http://www.epicski.com/t/92869/money-time-saving-tips-for-parents-with-small-children-who-ski

post #3 of 18

Consignment sales at ski stores (e.g. Select Sports in Kitchener), ski swaps, craigs list, E-bay.

 

Spend 20 bucks on a membership at Realskiers first so you can access their old reviews.

 

The 150 cm heads sound great, maybe a tiny bit too long for your wife, but about 15 cm too short for you.

 

Also, I saw some Volkl 73 RTMs in sportcheck yesterday for under $300.

post #4 of 18
Definitely look at buying used either at a ski store or at a ski area. Most places do a ski swap at the end and beginning of the season. For kids you'll want to go a little big so they can get more than one season on boots and skis. Rule of thumb is a ski should be up to their chin and not past their nose. Buy too long a ski and they will have a hard time.
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 

Yes, finding something everyone likes to do and involves some athletic ability is gold as far as I am concerned.

 

Thanks for the link Marznc,  will check it out.

 

Ghost, I am not quite following you, as  you have suggested 150cm  heads  sound great but are 15 cm too short for me.  165 cm would make the skis 7 cm taller than I am (I wonder whether that is to long for someone just starting out but perhaps that's why you were saying 150 sounds great).

post #6 of 18

There are also lots of skis on Kijiji but I find many of them over-priced, even after factoring in some haggling.  But do some searching and make some offers, and see what you can find

 

It is end of season now so the stores are blowing our inventory.

I was at Corbett's in Oakville yesterday, and all skis & boots are 30% off, goggles were 50%off

(  Got wifey new Salomon boots, and me some nice Smith IOX's )

I am sure Sportchek has great deals too now on new packages.

Wherever you reside, visit any local ski shops -> they will be eager to move gear

 

- Andy in Waterloo


Edited by ARL67 - 3/28/14 at 4:47pm
post #7 of 18

Can't rely help with womens skis.  150 may be a bit short for your weight, but you're probably not too far off the mark.  I would look at buying an intermediate ski with a little tip rocker - something you can ski now, but that you wont outgrow in one season.  Here's a few that might be worth a look.

 

Fisher Motive 76 or 74 in 154 or 161 cm w/bindings under $300 out the door after taking the 20% discount.

 

http://www.the-house.com/8954fim76rpas13zz-fischer-ski-packages.html

 

http://www.the-house.com/8955fim7pr1pas13zz-fischer-ski-packages.html

 

Rossi Experience 74 or 76 156 cm w/ binding $280 - $350

 

http://www.the-house.com/8956roe74cxx113zz-rossignol-ski-packages.html

 

http://www.the-house.com/8956roe76cxx113zz-rossignol-ski-packages.html

 

Volkl RTM 73's or 75's would work too.

post #8 of 18

www.levelninesport.com

www.evo.com

 

From the US but good prices and service.

post #9 of 18

I just got some new 2012 skis still in the wrapper  from www.skiessentails.com  $270 shipped.

post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by raff View Post
 

Yes, finding something everyone likes to do and involves some athletic ability is gold as far as I am concerned.

 

Thanks for the link Marznc,  will check it out.

 

Ghost, I am not quite following you, as  you have suggested 150cm  heads  sound great but are 15 cm too short for me.  165 cm would make the skis 7 cm taller than I am (I wonder whether that is to long for someone just starting out but perhaps that's why you were saying 150 sounds great).


Weight is more important than height.  You weigh 160 lbs.  If you ski places like Horseshoe, Blue Mountain Collingwood, Mt. St. Louise Moonstone, 165 cm is a good length for you.  If you ski only small hills and stick to groomers 155 would work well enough for you.

 

150 is 15 cm too short for you and about 5 cm too long for your wife's 130 lbs. 

 

If you get shorter skis it may be easier to muscle them around with improper technique, but if you learn to ski it will be easier to ski the longer skis when conditions are less than perfect.

post #11 of 18

Check out the Action Sports Outlet website. They are an online branch of Corbetts out of Oakville. Excellent prices on one or two year old new equipment and free shipping. 

 http://stores.ebay.com/ASOGEAR

Don't buy boots on line though. You will waste time and money and probably end with something too big.

post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info and web site tips.   Will definitely check out the asogear site.   I note the volkls with bindings are a little cheaper than the sportchek price even  if a year older model.

post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

I saw a pair of Rosignol Experience 78 with a length of 158cm on sale and suggested by a store clerk as appropriate for me.   Given my stats and the information above does this seem like a reasonable first ski for me.   I note that the rosignol site suggests it is for an intermediate skier which I am not (yet).

post #14 of 18

Those would work very well actually.  I see plenty of Rossi E78s at Glen Eden, Horseshoe, some at Blue.  Not too long or short, not too wide or narrow.  Just right.  "Intermediate" skis mostly mean they're constructed fairly medium-soft and will be a bit forgiving, but can't handle very high speeds (which would work for you).  The only true "beginner" skis are rentals.

 

Where are you located?  Glen Eden has a ski swap in the Fall, Horseshoe does I think too??  There's also the Toronto Snow Show in October which has a huge swap, but you gotta buy tickets for admission (you also get to see the entire show, booths, displays, etc, etc for your ticket though).

 

Side note: I have a pair of girls' skis, 125cm I think, for sale.  Adjustable bindings, cheap $$ if you're interested.  I'll toss in poles too.  I'm in Mississauga.

post #15 of 18

Seriously, get yourself into Corbetts in person and talk to the very helpfull staff.

It is cheaper in-store than on their ASOGEAR Ebay site, or even Corbett's own website.

Also, Corbetts outlet ( aka " Re-Runs" ) is right beside them.

FYI: They close for the season April 13th.

 

I have been there waaay too many times over the last 3 weeks and bought a lot of stuff.

No affiliation with them, just a happy customer.

 

- Andy

post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies guys.  Andy, Corbetts is who recommended the rosignol experience 78's and I pulled the trigger on them.  Just wanted a little feedback.   Took about an hour and 45 minutes to fit my wife and I with boots.  I was very impressed with the service and the knowledgeable staff.   I think the prices were good too.  Those Kastles offered for sale earlier in the thread looked great, but they sold fast.

 

Rental boots have been size 26.5 or 27.5 and my feet have been in agony.   Corbetts sorted me with boots in 24.5 and they are very comfortable.  Frankly, it does amaze me that another pair (different make) that I tried and that were the same size were really hurting my feet. 

 

Anyway, to make a long story short the service was such that it was not a hard decision to pick up skis while we were there as well (but not before checking out rerun).  Maybe, just maybe we will get out once more this year, if not I will look forward to next winter.  

 

In the fall we will sort our kids out. 

 

Gunnerbob, thanks for your feedback.

post #17 of 18

For the kids, take a look at the Roces adjustable ski boots. Each boot can be adjusted to 4 different size settings. With kids from 8-12 you can hand them down. Approx USD 100/pair. My kids have them and they are great.

 

http://www.roces-snow.com/en-us/idea/featuresandbenefits/sizes.aspx

post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Guys just thought I would let you know that based on advice here, on other threads and from corbets my wife and both purchased skis and boots. I ended up with rossignol experience 78 at 158 cm which is my height as well. The advice here gave me the confidence to go longer (rentals were always 140). Was skiing today at snow valley and had no problem turning etc so am happy I have a ski that I can work with for some time to come. Also have Lange rx100 which are 3 sizes smaller than any of the three rentals I have had and it was a real revelation not to experience extreme foot, calf or shin pain.
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