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post #1 of 16
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Hi there.  I've been looking at Craigslist and a few end of the season deals and am having trouble deciding between the following:

 

- Ortovox S1 (not S1+) for $200, Craigslist

- Pieps DSP Sport for $233, new

- Ortovox 3+ for $250, Craigslist

 

I feel like this is a good comparison: http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Avalanche-Beacon-Reviews/compare?gearid_array%5B%5D=50000&gearid_array%5B%5D=51172&gearid_array%5B%5D=49979&gearid_array%5B%5D=50001

 

Basically it comes down to is a used S1 (not S1+) and it's slightly extra features worth it over a new Pieps DSP Sport? 

 

Thanks!


Edited by Kaaji1359 - 3/14/14 at 10:50am
post #2 of 16
I have the older dsp tour
Lots of guys like the pieps and the new version is improved by bd
Would grab the new one
post #3 of 16
Not everyone feels the need for all the features in the S1 - I don't, I favor simplcity one familiarity when the shit hits the fan and a lot is at stake. That DSP Sport is a great transceiver at a very nice price and you have to be careful with used transceivers, they can suffer from frequency drift or other errors. But if you want the features and that one on Craigslist is in good working condition, it could be a good deal.

You can get a good analysis of the S1 features, and decide whether you need them here:
http://beaconreviews.com

Here's a piece I wrote a while back on frequency drift in beacons:
http://blog.sdcmountainworks.com/2010/02/02/avalanche-beacons-getting-the-drift-by-bob-lee/

I have had a 3+ for a couple of years and like it a lot, but I'd get a DSP Sport if I was buying a new one.

Remember to practice a lot smile.gif
post #4 of 16

I have a DSP Sport. Seemed to really stand out in the feature set vs. the price. 

 

I'm very happy with it. It seems to track multiple signals well and the display makes things pretty clear.

 

The only thing I can say as a detraction is I wish the harness was more comfortable.

post #5 of 16

backcountry.com has the DSP Sport for $219 now

post #6 of 16
I would pull da trigger on that one
post #7 of 16
Okay, I don't know the first thing about these dealy-bobs. Buying one for my daughter. Basic, total newb question. There is something you wear, and then a gizmo that finds the signal of the worn item. What is the term for each? (Yeah, I know, basic stuff.) And if you buy one do you automatically get the other? Looking at this for a birthday gift.
http://www.backcountry.com/backcountry-access-tracker-2-avalanche-beacon?rr=t
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Okay, I don't know the first thing about these dealy-bobs. Buying one for my daughter. Basic, total newb question. There is something you wear, and then a gizmo that finds the signal of the worn item. What is the term for each? (Yeah, I know, basic stuff.) And if you buy one do you automatically get the other? Looking at this for a birthday gift.
http://www.backcountry.com/backcountry-access-tracker-2-avalanche-beacon?rr=t

 

Each unit can both send and receive a signal.  They have a switch that determines whether the unit is transmitting a signal or searching for a signal. General practice is one wears the beacon and skis with it in transmit mode, along with their ski buddies that are also wearing beacons. The product is worthless without another beacon to locate the signal.

 

If something terrible happens, everyone not buried in the snow switches their units to search to locate the beacon signal of those buried.

 

So there are not two pieces, there is just one beacon that does both.

 

All of the mainstream beacon products transmit a good signal- when you go up in price, you get a beacon that is better at locating signals, saving time in locating the buried victim. This is why you will hear people say that if their buddy has a crappy beacon and they have a good one, they should swap beacons with the buddy.

 

The Tracker 2 is an established product with a good reputation.  As mentioned above the Pieps DSP Sport is one really well liked as well. I've used both and think the DSP Sport has a display more intuitive to locating a signal, showing the number of signals, etc. But I don't think you can go wrong with wither.

post #9 of 16
Yup, they are transceivers, meaning a single unit both transmits and receives.

That BCA unit is a nice one but for essentially the same price you can get one with better range and more features from Ortovox:
http://www.backcountry.com/ortovox-3-plus-beacon?CMP_SKU=ORT0155

And for just s few more $$ you can get one with even better range and more features:
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/pieps-avalanche-beacons-PP1128040000ALL1.html

If it were my daughter, I'd get either the Ortovox 3+ (what I personally use) or the Pieps Sport (what I'd get if I were buying now). The BCA Tracker 2 is soon to be replaced by the long-rumored Tracker 3. Here's some reading for you:
http://beaconreviews.com/transceivers/Basics.asp
http://beaconreviews.com/transceivers/Specs_Tracker2.asp
http://beaconreviews.com/transceivers/Specs_Ortovox3Plus.asp
http://beaconreviews.com/transceivers/Specs_PiepsDSPSport.asp

Edit to add: you rock as a mom.
post #10 of 16
I'm a paranoid mom. She wanted ski pants and I've helped with the boots and the skis. The beacon is, ultimately, for ME.
post #11 of 16
Got the Pieps Sport, since that was my number 2.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Got the Pieps Sport, since that was my number 2.

 

You know, it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to get one for yourself and whoever you ski with. Chances are very low that something will happen inbounds, but if you are skiing 100 times a year and skiing out the trees every powder day, if it does happen, it could be you...

 

Almost all of my skiing is inbounds (some after the season ends) and I still found an avalanche class invaluable and fun.

post #13 of 16
Chances here are really really low. More likely to be a tree well, and then unlikely they'd find me in time anyway, or be able to get to me. People in their sixties and seventies aren't going to be boot packing that fast. Which is why I won't ski with a bunch of them off piste, they don't realize their limitations relative to distance. Might as well be alone.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Chances here are really really low. More likely to be a tree well, and then unlikely they'd find me in time anyway, or be able to get to me. People in their sixties and seventies aren't going to be boot packing that fast. Which is why I won't ski with a bunch of them off piste, they don't realize their limitations relative to distance. Might as well be alone.

 

That could be. Has your daughter taken an avy class? Maybe that would be a good mother/daughter activity? Even if you aren't skiing stuff that carries risk, taking a class would allow you to ask the "right questions" to verify that she is skiing safely. :)

post #15 of 16
She's taken one. She's going with a Snow Science Masters guy and another guy who has done a lot of ski mountaineering in the area they are going. She's got the right companions.
post #16 of 16

Late to the party...I bought a (new) Barryvox Pulse this winter, at a discounted price because it had the "old" firmware on it.

I did a bit of research and that one seemed the best balanced option (three antennae, both digital and analog, ease of use - in an emergency I don't want to fiddle with the instrument to have it do things I want, I want it to work, easyly and surely)

Next on the list is the avy equipment for my companion and my sons, time for all of them to roam the out-of-bounds here...(btw, avy equipment , the triad Beacon-Probe-Shovel, is manadatory by law here, for anyone venturing off piste, skiers, boarders, snowshoes walkers, whoever, even if off-piste means 1 foot out of the marked runs...)

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