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Life after Flexon 9.1s - boot recommendations?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hi all - this is my first post.

 

I started skiing in Vancouver, BC, about twenty years ago at the ripe old age of 35. I spent a couple of seasons as a shuttle bus driver at Cypress Bowl (Olympic freestyle & snowboard venue) and, thanks to the full-privilege pass, got to a point where I could get down most of the black runs on old-school straight skis without crashing but without much grace, either. I bought a pair of new black Raichle Flexon 9.1s and still have them today. FWIW, I was told they were they were 'race' boots when I bought them.

 

I've now started skiing again on small, rock-hard hills in Ontario after a break of about ten years. I've bought a pair of decent mid-range Nordica skis and am starting to recover my skills, such as they were, fairly quickly. To get to the point, I'm concerned that my Flexons are getting very old, the linings are starting to misbehave, and I'm thinking about replacements. My feet are 9.5 to 10, with narrow heels and fairly wide and flat forefeet. I'm 5'9", about 155lbs and quite athletic. Contrary to some other reports, I've found the Flexons very stiff fore and aft, as I find it almost impossible to bend the ankles, even with considerable effort, and I'd like to find something that feels similar - unless, of course, anyone thinks softer boots would be better for my skill level. I like to think I'll be intermediate to advanced intermediate by the end of the season, which looks like lasting forever up here.

 

What would you recommend? I'll most likely have to look for used boots.

 

Many thanks in advance!

post #2 of 14

The Flexon lives again... Full tilt boots bought the molds for the Raichle's years ago and has reintroduced the boot to the market. If you love the fit, they might be a good place to start. I would recommend finding a fitter near you that you can go in and spend some time with. Take your old boots and give the fitter feed back on what you like and dislike about your current boots. Be open to trying anything on. Good luck and your feet will thank you.    

post #3 of 14
Full tilt is selling them, they got the original molds
So hope is not lost
post #4 of 14
You may also be able to replace the liner with an intuition
The flex can be changed with a different tongue
So if it still fits your foot and the soles are not worn out
You can fix em up
post #5 of 14

Hi..

My Flexon Comp's latest liners were heading south last year. Not when cold..just after skiing for a bit and run a bit hard. Then they were just too old/soft. I trred on quite  a few boots and felt that the Full Tilt was pretty good..but that the liners they could be had with..umm..not for me at 5 10/210lbs. I would need some much stiffer liners. The best price on the boot in this area was about $400 plus tax plus fitting plus another liner. In the meantime I put some new liners(nos)in my old Flexons and the jury was out for a bit of last season and into this.Putting new liners in old boots..depends on the boot shell .and how/where it has been flexed. Mine are great now. I am very impressed. I am a size 9 1/2 too. Not a 10. Narrow foot high arch. I still have the old liners..they may work for you as you are lighter.Used boots? I dunno about that.Unless you are lucky enough to find a pair that has been used by someone with a similar foot size and weight/strength..skier strength. Then again..used boots..From your position in skiing. Think you should get some new boots.

 

  Pm me if you want.

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 

Wow! Talk about quick responses! Thanks to everyone for their comments. I should add the following to my original post, though: while I enjoy the feel of my Flexons, I find them - again contrary to many other users - extremely difficult to put on and take off. Even if I pull the tongue out and spread the throat as far as I can I still have to really force my foot into the boot. (Once it's there, it's very happy and the heel grip is particularly good.) The friction and force involved in removing my foot is what is slowly destroying the lining of the left boot in the heel and ankle areas. I'm also concerned about the age of the plastic. While I'm not aware of any cracks or weakness I wouldn't like to discover them when the boot explodes at high speed.

 

The upshot is that I'm thinking of trying a different, probably more conventional and certainly newer style of boot, although the fact that the Flexons do fit my foot shape does make me wonder about staying with them.

post #7 of 14

I would try a new set of both on. the plastic on your old boots has become stiff and brittle due to age and UV damage. Newer plastic will be much easier what ever boot you may end up with.   

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks. I think you're probably right, although the Flexons were bloody difficult to don even when new.

post #9 of 14

I'm skiing Flexons. I missed the straight ski era but I've bought 8 pairs of used.

 

Those black ones have the stiffest tongue except for an actual World Cup tongue. You say you like the stiffness but you could get a softer tongue.

 

The original liners that I've seen had a felt lining that worked against a wool sock to put on. A nylon sock worn over the ski sock makes it easier.

 

Invest in an Intuition or new Full Tilt liner that you buy from someone who knows how to help you pick the right one for your foot and will mold it for you. Intitions are warmer and easier to slip into.

 

I don't worry about the old plastic if it's shiny. I bough a pair I won't ski in. I've heard of brand new boots cracking.

 

Trying to buy some other boot "that fits like a Flexon" on the used market is tough to do IME unless you find a used Full Tilt.

 

The old liners make nifty shop slippers :)

 

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the excellent advice, especially about the nylon socks. If my wife wore nylon stockings I'd borrow a pair of hers wink.gif but I'll just get a light pair of socks. It doesn't sound, from all the comments, as though I'll be able to reproduce The Flexon Experience with another manufacturer's products and I am accustomed to the high performance feel of my current boots, so I suppose I'll stick with them for the time being. It's certainly the most economical option and that's a nontrivial consideration for me.
post #11 of 14

I played with used Flexons and old skis off of Craigslist for a few seasons and had a lot of fun learning. You will be getting an Intuition sooner or later.

 

Had some fun with these SL skis I got for free

 

post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Pootle View Post

Thanks for the excellent advice, especially about the nylon socks. If my wife wore nylon stockings I'd borrow a pair of hers wink.gif but I'll just get a light pair of socks. It doesn't sound, from all the comments, as though I'll be able to reproduce The Flexon Experience with another manufacturer's products and I am accustomed to the high performance feel of my current boots, so I suppose I'll stick with them for the time being. It's certainly the most economical option and that's a nontrivial consideration for me.

 

I don't know how you got that idea from the comments. Simply not true.

 

Here they are Brand New.

New liners aren't cheap. You might be able to get a pair of Full Tilts on sale for 100$ more than a liner.

 

 

Check them out here:

http://fulltiltboots.com/

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
OK. My deepest apologies if I was not sufficiently precise in my response. I consider Flexons and Full Tilt boots to be essentially identical, as they are, although they are indeed made by different manufacturers. Would you be happier if I distinguished between Lexon/Full Tilt boots and those by other manufacturers?
post #14 of 14
Dalbello also make a similar style cabrio boot with a springy nylon type tongue. I'm been on raichles since 1984.... But this year I went for a Salimon quest 14 and couldn't be happier. Lots of punching and liner mods and custom footbeds but I'm quite happy with the result. I think the traditional vs progressive flex helps me ski better.
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