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post #121 of 128
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That should teach me to not rachet back on a crowded day.

It makes you a sitting duck.

 

Interesting concept, be the hunter or the hunted.

post #122 of 128
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Interesting concept, be the hunter or the hunted.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee

your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.

 

-Muhammad Ali

post #123 of 128
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Originally Posted by Master Gater View Post

You can ski down zee left side or you can ski down zee right side, but stay out of zee middle. Zee middle is mine!

I had a real fun day at ski Santa Fe on Sunday.

Cut down clean from behind by an out of control low intermediate.

I guess I'm still pretty tough cause the hit was hard enough so that I don't remember it.

My nice new FX.

The girl that hit me was unhurt and unconcerned for my welfare.

She hit me because she was trying to keep up with her boyfriend who accused me of making a "weird turn."

Ya, it was pretty weird, it was actually carved on a compression roll.

It is probably better that I did not find them later that afternoon.

I think the main fault lies with the inconsiderate, unsafe asshat of a boyfriend that lured his girl to do stuff she couldn't handle.

Sound familiar?

I said it all in my earlier post but I'm now pretty sure I will kick out of my skis then next time I am hit.

Hope it isn't a five year old.

That should teach me to not rachet back on a crowded day.

It makes you a sitting duck.

Quite the impact there.

It's the change in tactics that make it particularly dangerous.  If you are used to carving high speed turns down the mountain and then switch to slow short radius turns, you need to get used to the new environment, new dangers, new level of ability to control your movements, etc.  

post #124 of 128
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Quite the impact there.

It's the change in tactics that make it particularly dangerous.  If you are used to carving high speed turns down the mountain and then switch to slow short radius turns, you need to get used to the new environment, new dangers, new level of ability to control your movements, etc.  

Blaming the victim. Again. There's nothing to suggest that the OP lacks the ability to control his movements. And no amount of awareness will keep out of control idiots from plowing into the back of you. While major changes in direction deserve a quick glance back, and even a hand signal, you can't ski looking back all the time. I think the OP showed too much restraint, if anything. The young woman should have provided ID or been kept at the scene, or if necessary kept from boarding the lift, until patrol could talk to her and get her info. I would have then taken her to small claims court. Let her boyfriend rant at patrol about how the OP got in the way. That would be interesting.

 

I've been hit a couple of times this season when I slowed or turned for multiple slower skiers ahead. What are you supposed to do--keep blasting through and hope you don't hit the people in front of you? Well, maybe you would.

post #125 of 128

Just for clarification.

I was skiing along the side of a run making constant radius, constant speed slalom turns.

My rhythm or turn spacing never varied over the length of the run.

How weird is that?

The next skier that scares or hits me had better watch their six.

post #126 of 128
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

Quite the impact there.

It's the change in tactics that make it particularly dangerous.  If you are used to carving high speed turns down the mountain and then switch to slow short radius turns, you need to get used to the new environment, new dangers, new level of ability to control your movements, etc.  

Blaming the victim. Again. There's nothing to suggest that the OP lacks the ability to control his movements. And no amount of awareness will keep out of control idiots from plowing into the back of you. While major changes in direction deserve a quick glance back, and even a hand signal, you can't ski looking back all the time. I think the OP showed too much restraint, if anything. The young woman should have provided ID or been kept at the scene, or if necessary kept from boarding the lift, until patrol could talk to her and get her info. I would have then taken her to small claims court. Let her boyfriend rant at patrol about how the OP got in the way. That would be interesting.

 

I've been hit a couple of times this season when I slowed or turned for multiple slower skiers ahead. What are you supposed to do--keep blasting through and hope you don't hit the people in front of you? Well, maybe you would.


I'm not blaming the victim, nor anyone else (although if I wanted to blame someone I would blame the person who ran the victim down from behind); I'm just warning folks who, like me spend most of their time carving high speed turns down the mountain to be extra cautious and alert when they adopt a new tactic.  Anytime you do something new and different from what you are well used to doing, it is more dangerous.

post #127 of 128
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Deer Valley is without a doubt the most dangerous resort in North America. The primary reason is that they groom a lot of relatively steep terrain; this lures people who can't really ski onto slopes beyond their ability ("Hey, it's a groomer") and turns them into uncontrolled missiles. A secondary cause is the "Master of the Universe" syndrome. Many of the gapers that frequent DV are successful in their careers and well-off. They assume that this achievement translates into awesome ability in everything they do, including skiing, despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

I have seen more serious accidents and fatalities at DV than anywhere else I have skied. Forget about out-of-control snowboarders, nothing compares with a 55 yr old CEO who can't ski, but thinks he's Ted Ligety, trying to impress his tart of the day on Stein's.

Um... HardDay has a point here. I ski at DV, er, "Bambi Basin"- (Thx, Eagle, hadn't heard that one...) a half dozen times each season and that pretty much rings true, although it's certainly not unique to DV. There's a lot of steep groomers that other resorts would let go to bumps. A caveat- there are runs like Steins & Tycoon off the Sultan chair that are steep & hard snow, and not very wide, so one little #%$ up and you're instantly into the trees... Lady Morgan, etc. on a powder day, especially in a storm when the guests are all in the lodge, is always the best way to do Bambi Basin. - Or on a beach day with a Bambi in Bogner, I suppose...

   Also- the reason DV used to give for not wanting to connect the Wasatch resorts is that everyone would ski over there for lunch...

post #128 of 128
On those days the porcupine technique is in order ;-) Self preservation is a good collision avoidance motivator.
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