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post #31 of 40
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I can't believe boots make that big of a difference.
post #32 of 40
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Originally Posted by DeJay126 View Post

I can't believe boots make that big of a difference.

It's the only thing that makes a real difference.  Feel free to talk to the other people on this board to confirm. 

 

BTW, you are doing everything backwards.  You first figure out the boots, then you mount the bindings. Chances are the boots that really fit her will be a size or two smaller than she has now.  I'd harare a guess that boots that truly fit you are at least a size smaller than what you have for sure.  

post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by DeJay126 View Post

I can't believe boots make that big of a difference.


If you don't want to listen to the experts or the instructors, how about someone with recent, fairly low-end experience?

 

I'm finally really getting my boots dialed in, for the first time, well, ever (I started skiing more just 1-2 times/season about 4 years ago).  It makes a huge, huge difference to know that your feet aren't going to shift in the boots and throw you off balance just when that would hurt most.  Just based on that confidence, I've gone from defensive skiing (speed control) to offensive skiing (turns!) on intermediate terrain in a matter of a few weeks.

 

Believe it.  It can sound like a religious mantra on this site when everybody joins in, but it really is true:  the single best thing you can do for your skiing is to have boots that fit, and that flex appropriately for you.

post #34 of 40
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I didn't say I wasn't listening, as I stated before multiple times I'm going to take her to get fitted. I simply didn't realize how much of a big deal they were.
post #35 of 40
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It's the only thing that makes a real difference.  Feel free to talk to the other people on this board to confirm. 

BTW, you are doing everything backwards.  You first figure out the boots, then you mount the bindings. Chances are the boots that really fit her will be a size or two smaller than she has now.  I'd harare a guess that boots that truly fit you are at least a size smaller than what you have for sure.  

I know how to adjust the bindings, so getting them put onto the deck first isn't going to make a difference. I'm comfortable adjusting them to whatever boot and din we need.
post #36 of 40
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I don't want to sound like I'm not taking the advice, because I am, but everyone seems to misunderstand what I'm saying when I reply. I wouldn't have asked for the advice if I wasn't listening lol
post #37 of 40

Don't just rely on someone at the store to tell her what size boots fit; read the section here on shell fitting first. 

Boots make a huge difference.  Also if the skis are too low level, she will never gain confidence, because those skis will not be able to turn her sufficiently to inspire confidence.  I don't know what level skis she has, either the old ones or the new ones, but they could be too high (too hard to bend into a turn) or too low (no ability to grip the snow and turn her at more than 3 mph.

post #38 of 40
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Originally Posted by DeJay126 View Post

I know how to adjust the bindings, so getting them put onto the deck first isn't going to make a difference. I'm comfortable adjusting them to whatever boot and din we need.

Usually there is a range of adjustment, but sometimes you may end up running out of it, or the boot will end up being too far forward or backward.  I always mount for the boot, not the other way. 

post #39 of 40
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Originally Posted by DeJay126 View Post

I didn't say I wasn't listening, as I stated before multiple times I'm going to take her to get fitted. I simply didn't realize how much of a big deal they were.

You are doing a pretty good job of asking for advice.  Much better than most.  I think if you keep asking questions, you'll know more than most of your friends who already think they know enough about skiing.

 

Although I think you know some of the stuff in this thread for pure beginners, you may find some info useful for your GF.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/65105/beginners-tip-bible-share-yours

 

My sense is that you would like to become a couple who skis together on a regular basis.  Unless your friends are instructors, you are likely to benefit from a couple lessons.  Preferably from an instructor with 5+ years of experience and/or PSIA Level 2.  There are many ways to make turns with skis.  Some require more effort than others, and some do not work that well on steeper and longer terrain than exists in the Mid-Atlantic.  It's fair to say that making skis turn while wearing boots that are too big or not buckled correctly because they hurt generally means the skier develops bad habits.

 

This thread has links to Movement Analysis threads that you might find useful.  Most are intermediates, not beginners.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/115961/how-to-get-advice-from-instructors-based-on-a-video-of-yourself

post #40 of 40
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Don't just rely on someone at the store to tell her what size boots fit; read the section here on shell fitting first. 
Boots make a huge difference.  Also if the skis are too low level, she will never gain confidence, because those skis will not be able to turn her sufficiently to inspire confidence.  I don't know what level skis she has, either the old ones or the new ones, but they could be too high (too hard to bend into a turn) or too low (no ability to grip the snow and turn her at more than 3 mph.

I think that's the biggest problem is we got her skis that are way too stiff and advanced for her skill set. The new ones we just bought are more flexible and a heck of a lot lighter. Plus they're a little wider at the end.
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