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post #61 of 86
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Hi TC,

Thanks for that post - especially coming from you - one of the few I admire in Epic. Yup, hopefully we could do some first runs in Utah one day or even in Tahoe, where I learned to ski and fell in love with it 20 years ago.

Cheers,

C.
post #62 of 86

My posting of the beloved Miley Cyrus was an allusion to Segs posting of "letting her Bloom". Its a sarcastic image of what can happen when teenagers "bloom" in the wrong way.  OMG!  I guess that's what happens when people don't read all the posts.  But seriously TC objected to that????????????????????????????????????????????????????

post #63 of 86
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My posting of the beloved Miley Cyrus was an allusion to Segs posting of "letting her Bloom". Its a sarcastic image of what can happen when teenagers "bloom" in the wrong way.  OMG!  I guess that's what happens when people don't read all the posts.  But seriously TC objected to that????????????????????????????????????????????????????

No, I got the context, but man0man......the one place I have been able to avoid seeing such images of MC is EpicSki....you've just ruined it for me. :D

post #64 of 86

I can post more if you like. SADLY Shes nothing more than a hugely successful marketing campaign for other teenage girls. Marilyn Monroe, Madonna (skipping a lot), Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lady gaga and now her.   Its a shame that the public rewards this behavior and loves to emulate this image and at the same time condemn it. Rather sad actually but someone is buying these downloads and someone is buying the " bangerz" concert tickets....  and it ain't all teenage girls so I wonder how many parents/people really are so offended... 

post #65 of 86

Better?  I think so....

 

post #66 of 86
Thats great , I have a new profile photo of myself in my bellbottom stretch pants I can post there.
post #67 of 86
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Business maybe but I was referring to teenage use and I bet it goes out of style soon.

Um, it's waaaay out with teens already. I don't think my 16yo daughter has touched her page in a year.

post #68 of 86
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My posting of the beloved Miley Cyrus was an allusion to Segs posting of "letting her Bloom". Its a sarcastic image of what can happen when teenagers "bloom" in the wrong way.  OMG!  I guess that's what happens when people don't read all the posts.  But seriously TC objected to that????????????????????????????????????????????????????

DON'T YOU DARE associate me with that. You know I love ya Finn but you should have stopped with post #13. :D

post #69 of 86
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DON'T YOU DARE associate me with that. You know I love ya Finn but you should have stopped with post #13. :D

 

 

its not associated with you in the slightest bit. 

post #70 of 86

So, this is my first time on here. I'm a surfer from CT but go to RI weekly (yes, surfing in the winter). I'm a teenager also, and thought it would be appropriate to comment on this thread. I live 5 minutes from my local mtn. and go weekly also. I thought it would be interesting to see what kind of things skiers talk about and try something other than Swellinfo, (a surf forecasting site with forums). Has anyone ever been to Mohawk Mtn. in Connecticut? How about Ski Sundown in New Hartford? 

post #71 of 86
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So, this is my first time on here. I'm a surfer from CT but go to RI weekly (yes, surfing in the winter). I'm a teenager also, and thought it would be appropriate to comment on this thread. I live 5 minutes from my local mtn. and go weekly also. I thought it would be interesting to see what kind of things skiers talk about and try something other than Swellinfo, (a surf forecasting site with forums). Has anyone ever been to Mohawk Mtn. in Connecticut? How about Ski Sundown in New Hartford? 


I would suggest starting a new thread for that topic.

post #72 of 86

I would like it to be known that my saying she had a boyfriend (in the orig thread) was more of me busting Cyclist's balls than my knowing what the situation was at his home.

 

That said, I agree with some that have said this is a family trip and she is a part of the family. This girl is smart and articulate. Are there other things that might interest her on the trip? To that, I think her likes should be taken into account on future ski trips- ie make them shorter in length (yeah, it sucks but...) and have other plans for an off the slopes day or two. Maybe she's interested in or could be into photography? That's a nice "distraction" that adds to the skiing experience. 

Getaways with her parents are going to drop to the single digits in no time then, down to basically nothing. I wish I could go back and have more fun adventures with my folks when they were younger. We either had little money for the expenses of skiing or they had no desire to ski. I got to go to NM and CO mostly in the summer. Plus, my Dad has horrifically bad knees. I had to go with other family members or on Church Youth Group trips if I wanted to hit the slopes.

 

Kids always want to be a part of the social happenings and they don't want to feel like they missed out. There's always some sort of drama and friendship in the teens seems like the most important thing on earth. This means parents/siblings taking a back seat to their priorities. It is what it is. Expecting the parents to take a hit on airfare and anything else that has been paid for seems uncool and a little selfish to me. 

 

I look at this whole thing as my future. My daughter loves skiing one minute and then could care less the next.

 

Can you plan a family trip that is centered on volleyball???

post #73 of 86

Finn, it's a timing/appropriateness issue. That's a whole topic in itself what you raised, as opposed to the OP. That's why the whole question of posting the letter in the first place...discussions here just go off, so I don't quite get the point of it.

 

Seems to be bunch of vollyeball clubs/programs in Salt Lake. One could maybe do that during the ski trip?

Here's one:

 

http://highcountryvbc.spikenite.com/

post #74 of 86

Finndog, I'm sure you meant it as a joke , but it was in poor taste and inappropriate, quit while your behind.


Edited by pud - 3/12/14 at 7:18pm
post #75 of 86
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post #76 of 86
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Um, it's waaaay out with teens already. I don't think my 16yo daughter has touched her page in a year.

 

But she will in college.  Just wait.  I'm seeing this happen now with some of my younger cousins.  Facebook was never about high school kids in the first place.  People have been talking about its demise for a solid 4 years now but it's only become more rooted to the rest of the web as the standard back-bone for user accounts.

post #77 of 86
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But she will in college.  Just wait.  I'm seeing this happen now with some of my younger cousins.  Facebook was never about high school kids in the first place.  People have been talking about its demise for a solid 4 years now but it's only become more rooted to the rest of the web as the standard back-bone for user accounts.

 



Yes it's use and value become exponetially more valuable to people when they suddenly don't have 4-5 classes a day together and then hangout in the same clubs.
post #78 of 86
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Finndog, I'm sure you meant it as a joke , but it was in poor taste and inappropriate, quit while your behind.

And, frankly, since you are so negative about raising kids (I know you have your reasons), and the only thing you have brought up has been negativity about teens, just ... no. It's not needed here. There are a ton of good teens out there (most of them, actually), and the letter writer is obviously one of them. 

post #79 of 86

@GarryZ   thank you for understanding.  

post #80 of 86
I quit skiing once for a long time and a variety of reasons. The biggest one was as a member of an elite 8 rowing crew, I put myself and my team at risk if I was injured on the hill during the offseason training regemine. A good excuse, but I missed it just the same.

The good news is that having skied before you can always come back to it as I have. It is one of a handful of sports that a person can do on their own in multiple locations, for the rest of your life. Cycling is another....or running. Some team sports offer great opportunities to meet new people (volleyball especially if you live on the coast) and you could also include a couple of non team sports: golf and squash.

Don't grow up too fast. A lot of the stuff you think is important at 15, and some of the people who seemed important (parents are not included here) will be irrelevant a few years from now. Savor the fact that teenagers get a great deal of leeway because most people understand what that time of life is all about.

I have high hopes for your "crew", the next group coming up. I recall seeing the attitude of one of Canada's snowboarders at the Olympics, the Bronze medalist, and found his frank, easy going demeanor to be refreshing. His attitude was one I have seldom witnessed amongst numerous athletes. He is 20.

I think trying numerous sports is terrific, and a great way to find a fit for your interests and abilities. Taking some time off one sometimes increases the appreciation. Remember that as life becomes more complex ie adulthood, the sports that give you the best outlet and flexibility will likely be the best ones.

As you get older, you will appreciate the times that allow a family to do things together. I think skiing ranks as a terrific activity in this regard. Particularly because it's active.

Daniel Coyle wrote a book called: the talent code. You may want to explore the themes in this book, and on his blog as you pursue your various sporting, academic and extracurricular activities. This approach can enhance your outcome and experience in the various things that you try.

Be thankful for parents that care enough not to let you stay at home alone, and provide these types of opportunities. Not everyone is as fortunate.

And lastly.....

Keep up the good work.

tw
post #81 of 86
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I would like it to be known that my saying she had a boyfriend (in the orig thread) was more of me busting Cyclist's balls than my knowing what the situation was at his home.


I look at this whole thing as my future. My daughter loves skiing one minute and then could care less the next.


Can you plan a family trip that is centered on volleyball???


 

No worries. I didn't misinterpret, neither did my daughter. All in good stride. The volleyball clinic is a good suggestion and we might send her to one this summer. :>)
post #82 of 86
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Finn, it's a timing/appropriateness issue. That's a whole topic in itself what you raised, as opposed to the OP. That's why the whole question of posting the letter in the first place...discussions here just go off, so I don't quite get the point of it.


Seems to be bunch of vollyeball clubs/programs in Salt Lake. One could maybe do that during the ski trip?

Here's one:


http://highcountryvbc.spikenite.com/

 

COOOL! Thanks Tog. We might just check it out.
As an update to those who are curious. We invited her best friend (and mom) to come with us. They are considering it...
post #83 of 86
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I would like it to be known that my saying she had a boyfriend (in the orig thread) was more of me busting Cyclist's balls than my knowing what the situation was at his home.

 

I look at this whole thing as my future. My daughter loves skiing one minute and then could care less the next.

 

Can you plan a family trip that is centered on volleyball???

 

No worries. I didn't misinterpret, neither did my daughter. All in good stride. The volleyball clinic is a good suggestion and we might send her to one this summer. :>)

Yeah, I would NEVER pretend to know the goings on of a teenage girl.

post #84 of 86

I didn't have time to read all of the posts, but wanted to comment on the beautiful writings of Cyclist's daughter, and compliment the entire family on their communication skills. It is so wonderful to have a relationship where you can really speak your mind. I too have a great relationship and communication with my 16 year-old, but I sometimes mourn the increasing independence which cuts gently into our relationship - that being said, I know it is a necessary trajectory of life for all of us. 

 

Next year I want to take a big ski trip for our last winter before college interferes - but I have already been asked if a teenaged friend can come along (which would have to be at their own expense). Since my skiing skills are already surpassed by my teen's, it would make sense to have a companion along who can share the same runs/parks - but I know it will also take away from our "family time". But what is "family time", if it causes angst among some members? Perhaps better to envelope others INTO our family. . . . . Many things to think about.

 

Since I didn't read all of the posts, did anyone suggest that Cyclist's daughter bring along her best friend for the trip? Granted, ski trips are not in the least bit cheap, but it's an idea. If there are several children in the family (sorry, I didn't read all of the details), perhaps different children get different years for guests so that the group doesn't become unmanageable in size.

 

When I was young, I missed (of my own choice) taking several family trips with my family. To this day - decades later - I am still left out of the conversation on those "remember the time. . . . ?" memories. And even though at the time, in my youth, I didn't realize how much I would regret it, regret it I do.

 

As an adult, I went back and DID take some trips with my parents, and I am happy that I had that chance.

 

Kitty

post #85 of 86

I did a lot of stupid things as a teenager; I think one year, maybe when I was 18, I skied less than 20 days.

 

She'll see the light in another few years when she's stuck in the dorm in the middle of winter, and someone suggests a ski trip. (especially if drugs and alcohol are going to be involved)

post #86 of 86

When I was 17, my Mom left town for a trip to Russia (USSR back then). It was about a month before HS graduation & I threw a full blown kegger. She had left a student to supervise me (from the University where she teaches), he came back to the house in the middle of the party. He looked at me and said, "Chris, I just don't know what to do about this." I suggested that he grab a beer and think about it.

THAT is why I will always assume my kids are up to something... :beercheer:

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