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post #91 of 100
Have you tryed a K2? A head Raptor (if you have a low instep), Nordica patron pro? The Dalbello 'Strike' boots? The newer Technical 9.8 boots? There are more. Not to say you won't end up in a Lange, but its still better to buy from a place where they can work on the boot as well. I'm out. I have a hunch there will be multiple.threads on this topic until two pairs of boots are purchased. We can lead a horse to 30 year old cask single malt, but....
post #92 of 100
If you can't feel a difference between the rs and Rx, I get the feeling that something is wrong. The last is different on them. Unless you were in the rs-wide.
post #93 of 100
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

If you can't feel a difference between the rs and Rx, I get the feeling that something is wrong. The last is different on them. Unless you were in the rs-wide.

RS equal to RX LV, it is the same mold, just different plastic, sorry if I wasn't really cleared on that.

and both feels the same good for me IN THE STORE with 65 F in-door temp.

post #94 of 100
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I have tried today few boots:

I went to the boot store and did what LewyM suggested, ask to try the boots...

The fitter asked me about what I ski, which lifts, how I do it, etc and after checked my foot, etc

 

His suggestion:

a. Fisher vacuum would be the best for my foot construction

b. if I don't want to go with vacuum, then, he got me:

-- Head Raptor RS 115

-- Lange RX 130

 

both boots would need some work in the calf area (grinding, etc)

I was surprised that the flex (in the store) for Lange and Head is the same, even so one is 115 and another is 130, the plus side that both fit the same good, both would need the same type of work, but Head is about 100$ cheaper... So, I guess I would go with the Head.

 

Still, how the 115 is equal to 130, is it my imagination?

post #95 of 100
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

 

Still, how the 115 is equal to 130, is it my imagination?

 

Its impossible to compare the flex in a 75 degree store to what it will be like in much colder conditions when you're skiing.  How a boot flexes in the store means nothing. 

post #96 of 100

It is possible that Head's 115 boot is equivalent to Lange's 130 model. As others have said, each manufacturer rates their own boots, relative to one model versus another. The numbers do not translate across manufacturers. Doesn't make it easy for the buyer, that is for sure. Head's top of the line Raptor boot is a 130 rated flex, you should try that boot and compare it to the Lange 130 in the store. I disagree with the post about room temp flex. Most plastics stiffen about the same amount with temp. (not always true, but usually true for ski boots) and as long as both boots are the same temp, you can compare. I do agree that the flex in the store will be much softer than in cold temp's, the boots will stiffen a lot in winter temp's. It is possible the RS130 will feel stiffer in the cold relative to the head 115, but only experiencing both boots on the slopes will tell you for sure. I have room temp flexed the Lange RS 140, 130, and RX 120 and can feel a definite difference in stiffness in each boot. They all get a lot stiffer when cold, and the 140 gets almost rigid in the cold.

 

A 115 flex should not scare you off, but I would recommend trying the 130 flex head on for comparison.

post #97 of 100
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:rolleyes


Edited by Oleg S - 5/6/14 at 10:35am
post #98 of 100
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Update: well, after trying (in the store) multiple time RS/RX 130 vs Raptor 115 --> Lange wins (in my head, Lange is better fit)

However, I am sure Lange 130 would be much stiffer than Head 115 outside on the snow (even so, it feels equal in the store), so I guess I would remove one screw from the Lange to make it softer (if it really needed).

P.S. I wish that Lange would make RX LV in 110/115 flex (not only in 100/130 LV), but since they don't ... (well, sometimes we all make not the smartest decisions, may be this is one of them, or may be not, time will show).


Edited by Oleg S - 5/7/14 at 11:16am
post #99 of 100

My feeling is that you'll like the stiffer boots.  If you are a good skier and ski on higher level skis you will appreciate the better snow feel and faster response of the stiffer boots.  Remember it is easy to make boots softer but impossible to make them stiffer.

 

Cheers,

post #100 of 100
Oleg, the 130 RS is a bit stiffer than the Raptor 115. The Raptor 130 even with only the bottom screw in is stiffer. Not that it matters, but there's nothing to worry about. A competent boot fitter can safely and easily soften an RX 130 into a 110-115 flex AND keep at least the lower screw in the boot. IMHO and experience, never ski the Lange RS/RX boots with both screws removed. They absolutely CAN fold forward in a hard fall IF you remove both.
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