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Technique? Skiing trees with large, steep troughs

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I am a decent mogul and steep skier, but looking for advice on how to deal with tight trees with steep/deep/blind troughs. If you ski trees much, you know what I am talking about.  What is the best way to stay in control when the only option is a tight drop into a trough next to a tree, especially when the exit is blind?  Any great tips for keeping speed down,staying in control and ready for an uncertain direction at exit?

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I am a decent mogul and steep skier, but looking for advice on how to deal with tight trees with steep/deep/blind troughs. If you ski trees much, you know what I am talking about.  What is the best way to stay in control when the only option is a tight drop into a trough next to a tree, especially when the exit is blind?  Any great tips for keeping speed down,staying in control and ready for an uncertain direction at exit?

 

 

on a lot of this stuff is truly is leap of faith and just being comfortable with the speed....

 

with that said here are some tips....

 

tactics

 

first the "slow line fast" principle. I quite often will take the slowest line possible and basically ride the bank while I slide the ridge of the bank just underneath my heels. depending on the bank there is either a little slide or a lot of slide but basically once your taking the slowest line possible and sliding though on top of the bank you hopefully have the speed control you want because basically there is no more to be had. 

 

technique the most common technique issue most people have is they lose their counter and have trouble looking where they are going/starting their next turns. 

 

are you close to stowe? 

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yes as Josh said, I try to stay out of the deepest part of the trough and smear the bank, also run  the turn back up hill if possible to slow down even more. As you feel comfortable go lower in the trough and/or shorten the turn back up hill. Think about having flat skis and using pivots to change direction as needed or if all else fails be ready to hop turn fast.

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Josh, I will try your suggestion to ride the bank, sliding the ridge under the heels.  That sounds like it will counter the speed.  I believe I will also focus on looking further ahead, it is certainly easy to look down at the skis (I can be guilty of this) and fail to be ready for the next turn, or to anticipate the need for a next quick pivot or hop.

 

I'm not near Stowe, unfortunately.  Utah and some days in JH and Colo.

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Josh, I will try your suggestion to ride the bank, sliding the ridge under the heels.  That sounds like it will counter the speed.  I believe I will also focus on looking further ahead, it is certainly easy to look down at the skis (I can be guilty of this) and fail to be ready for the next turn, or to anticipate the need for a next quick pivot or hop.

 

I'm not near Stowe, unfortunately.  Utah and some days in JH and Colo.

 

 

I ll be in snowbird mid april though may 1st. If you want to meet up in an hour or 2 I bet we can figure it out together. The only issue is Gad 2 is normally not open that time of year but maybe the black forest is.... as well as ton of not as know glades in the P-Dog side of things. 


Edited by Josh Matta - 3/6/14 at 4:42am
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also, be very centered on your skis, if you get back it will be impossible to turn quickly.
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Not an instructor so if one can weigh in on if this is a thing...

 

I apply the same technique here that I do around steep, large bump troughs where it's hard to see the next turn...I apply extra pressure on the downhill shovel. Not sure how the physics works but it seems to stop me from picking up speed at the bottom of the trough and leaves me balanced and ready to pick my next move.

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