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post #181 of 186
Originally Posted by Fritzski View Post
It's not that I miss the "glory days" at all, but that while the media world of skiing has changed dramatically, the world of the typical resort skier has not. Moguls are still there, as they've always been, and as much as we'd like to ignore them, they're still the biggest challege facing your average skier.

Well that and powder, but obviously less of a concern at some mountains, and in some years.


People tell me Killington is nothing like it was 10 years ago when I left, which I guess is a little disappointing, but whatever. I don't ignore bumps as a rule, I just don't make them my central focus. If I did, I'd probably still be at Killington harassing mountain management.


Anyway, back to the average skier. I don't think a lot of average skiers really appreciate being challenged, and by average, I mean the terminal advanced intermediate (can't ski moguls, steeps, technical, or powder). They're usually the first ones bitching at mountain ops to flatten everything, and seemingly are the only customers whose opinion matters to the resorts who wish to stay in business, and not be sued.


The extreme marketing seems to come more from the non-resort side, but I don't think it's changed all that much over the years. Attention has always been given to skiers and feats that are most likely not within the realm of possibility for most aspiring skiers, it's just the realm of possibility that's expanded.

post #182 of 186

This is true...

post #183 of 186
Thread Starter 

Very interesting article on the subject.  Kudos to the author for the research involved.



post #184 of 186
Well Sarah Burke was killed by a freak fall on her neck.
JP Auclair and Andreas Fransson were killed climbing up by an avalanche. Though they certainly had many very dangerous decents.
Doug Coombs should be on the list if you have the above. There's many more.

It's all lumped together. Steep and extreme skiing and tricks. Extreme skiing was not started by twin tips. It's been going on since the 70's.
It's the filming that has changed things. Skiing super steep lines in exposed terrain is more dangerous but not nearly as exciting for most on film. Big lines and speed do better.
post #185 of 186

I see the fat-ski trend as just that, a trend. Manufacturers are always going to look for something new, better and appealing (especially in a market as cookie-cutter as ski making) to entice customers to re-up for a new pair while pushing the sport and their product to new heights. 


Mountain bikes have been undergoing a similar change in sizes, from 26 to 29 to 27.5 to 27.5+, etc. 29ers used to be the hot bike a few years ago, but the trend is now pulling back from such a big wheel to something more maneuverable in the 27.5. As a manufacturer I think you have to keep pushing the innovation until it starts to struggle under its own weight. Mountain bikes, like fat skis, have finally hit their limit--less is starting to become more. Sure, 29ers and 117mm underfoot skis have their place bombing the steepest and deepest, but it isn't the best choice for most scenarios day in and day out. 




I don't think the marketing, the movies and mags are misleading us from reality, but more so following the trends, staying ahead of the curve and highlighting what people are getting stoked on for a given year. The media hasn't forgotten about the mere mortals who shred in-bounds either. I've noticed more and more resort segments in movies lately, my favorite being from "Days of My Youth"--see below.



I love to watch crazy lines in Alaska just as much as I enjoy segments like the one above at CB--but for completely different reasons (and both make me want to ski equally as much).


The point is, the industry, like all sports industries will push the limits of the sport and the equipment in one direction or another to further the sport. There's nothing wrong with innovation, and over time the extremes will taper off and fall inline with consumer demand and, for lack of a better word, "reality."

post #186 of 186

To answer the original question--I believe it started here--

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