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post #61 of 78
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Originally Posted by solarity View Post
 

Personal Item = Fits under the seat (if it sticks out more, it will more so compromise your comfort, or the person next to you.

Carry On = Fits in the over head compartment

 

And EACH will have to fit in :nono: the box or have to be checked now.   That duffel bag/backpack that you usually scrunch under the seat because you know it is too big for the overhead is no longer allowed if it doesn't fit in :nono: the box.

post #62 of 78
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Originally Posted by tarvolon View Post
 

In the overhead bin. A normal sized backpack, even stuffed pretty tightly, is still quite a bit smaller than the carryon requirements, 

You must not be talking about a real backpack, but a daypack because I can guarantee you that my backpack at 60 liters, will not fit in the overhead and it is not a large backpack.

post #63 of 78
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

You must not be talking about a real backpack, but a daypack because I can guarantee you that my backpack at 60 liters, will not fit in the overhead and it is not a large backpack.

Sorry, a normal college student backpack, not a normal hiking backpack. 

post #64 of 78
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

According to what I read yesterday, UA is going to be pretty strict about the carryon dimensions and if it doesn't fit, it won't be check it at the gate for free, it will be back to the ticket counter and maybe miss the flight.  My wife and I heading to Bonaire this Saturday on UA and our usual carryons are 1" too big in two dimensions.  I'd rather pay than try to find bags that are the correct size on short notice.  We get one bag free anyway but have to take three bags, one full of scuba gear.  We seldom fly UA so I'm not sure we'll buy new bags.

 

If United is going to get this strict on carry-on (they certainly can based on the rules), maybe they could pay an equal amount of attention to the reliability of their service.  If only the former and not the latter, then I've got a two word response for them and my flight dollars will go elsewhere.  Granted some folks don't have a choice but to fly the "unreliable skies."

post #65 of 78
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Originally Posted by gregmerz View Post

 

If United is going to get this strict on carry-on (they certainly can based on the rules), maybe they could pay an equal amount of attention to the reliability of their service.  If only the former and not the latter, then I've got a two word response for them and my flight dollars will go elsewhere.  Granted some folks don't have a choice but to fly the "unreliable skies."

I agree.  I seriously dislike UA and have for years but living in Billings, MT, options for air travel are very limited:  Delta, Alaska, United and sometimes Allegiant(yuck).  If I could I would probably only use Alaska but they only fly to Seattle and sometimes Portland from here which isn't very useful for traveling east or south.  This is our third trip to Bonaire and every one has been on different airlines because they're always discontinuing service from Houston to Bonaire, even though the planes are always full.

post #66 of 78

Isn't being more consistent with written policy guidelines a step in the direction towards increasing the "reliability of their service"?  Really the way they go about this is beyond stupid.  They should have the box at the ticket counter and ski cap counters and just get the squabble over with there.  Don't send people down to the gate with items they are lead to believe they can carry on then drop the hammer on them at the gate. 

 

They can also make the call for just about ALL check at gate items like strollers and so forth, tag them, and make it clear that they are going in cargo when they reach the gate. 

 

Also, EVERYONE sitting in the same section should be allowed to bring on the exact same max amount of stuff. If there aren't enough bin spots to match the amount of seats/travelers they should just reduce the number of seats to make room for what people are told they can carry on.   If they're not willing to bite the bullet to do that they need to set a rule that nobody in coach gets one (i.e. only business and first class gets the second bag privilege).  Or, they could just add a prohibitively large fee for using an overhead bin.  Sucks, but if the reality is that there aren't enough for everyone (and we all know that is true because we all race to get on the plane to get ours first) then they should either make a way for there to be enough or make it a separate, not included additional option for coach and/or business.


Edited by crgildart - 3/6/14 at 4:56pm
post #67 of 78
Two flights on United last night and tonight. From Denver yesterday there was no sizing station at security, probably because all airlines use the security screening. From Chicago the maze folk were screening bag size even at the priority lane (I'm a lifetime 1k).

I still think the OP would be ok -- while is boots are slightly oversize, they are on a strap and I suspect you can arrange them to fit int the bag sizer.

Mike
post #68 of 78
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

I agree.  I seriously dislike UA and have for years but living in Billings, MT, options for air travel are very limited:  Delta, Alaska, United and sometimes Allegiant(yuck).  If I could I would probably only use Alaska but they only fly to Seattle and sometimes Portland from here which isn't very useful for traveling east or south.  This is our third trip to Bonaire and every one has been on different airlines because they're always discontinuing service from Houston to Bonaire, even though the planes are always full.

 

Agreed again.  I live in Minneapolis and the options here to ski destinations are Delta and United.  Minneapolis to Montana for example is controlled by Delta and you PAY to fly there winter or summer.  My choices to CO or WY are Delta but more likely UA.  After living in Seattle for years, I won't get on an Alaska flight, AA's documented safety rating is dismal.

post #69 of 78
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

Isn't being more consistent with written policy guidelines a step in the direction towards increasing the "reliability of their service"?  Really the way they go about this is beyond stupid.  They should have the box at the ticket counter and ski cap counters and just get the squabble over with there.  Don't send people down to the gate with items they are lead to believe they can carry on then drop the hammer on them at the gate. 

 

They can also make the call for just about ALL check at gate items like strollers and so forth, tag them, and make it clear that they are going in cargo when they reach the gate. 

 

Also, EVERYONE sitting in the same section should be allowed to bring on the exact same max amount of stuff. If there aren't enough bin spots to match the amount of seats/travelers they should just reduce the number of seats to make room for what people are told they can carry on.   If they're not willing to bite the bullet to do that they need to set a rule that nobody in coach gets one (i.e. only business and first class gets the second bag privilege).  Or, they could just add a prohibitively large fee for using an overhead bin.  Sucks, but if the reality is that there aren't enough for everyone (and we all know that is true because we all race to get on the plane to get ours first) then they should either make a way for there to be enough or make it a separate, not included additional option for coach and/or business.

Or they could drop the fee for checked baggage. You know, if we're already talking about reducing the number of seats to make room for what people can carry on. 

 

But I agree, if they're going to crack down, it needs to be at the ticket counter and not at the gate. 

post #70 of 78
Quote:Originally Posted by Radiater View Post
 
On the flight out of Aspen United did not allow gate checked bags because of weight restriction and needed three passengers to volunteer to fly the next day.  I thought that was poor planing on United's part.

 

I hate that when it happens, but it's not United fault.  Aspen's a one way runway and the RJ's can't take off with a tail wind if they're over a set gross weight.  Carry on in the cabin doesn't go on the weight and balance, so it doesn't count.  Delta and American both have the same problem, because they don't know what the wind will be until shortly before takeoff. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post 
They should have the box at the ticket counter and ski cap counters and just get the squabble over with there.  Don't send people down to the gate with items they are lead to believe they can carry on then drop the hammer on them at the gate.  

 

A lot of the people with carry on have already avoided those.

post #71 of 78

why do airlines board backwards,It would go so much faster if they loaded from the back to the front. would that piss off the high payers seeing the dweebs board first, get over it, whats your hurry first class and all the special boarders, you can walk on last and not have people pushing by you and the plane can leave sooner with a lot less disruption. this wouldn't cure the carry on problem, give americans a inch and they will take a foot about time they started to enforce the carry on size!!

post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by darent View Post
 

why do airlines board backwards,It would go so much faster if they loaded from the back to the front. would that piss off the high payers seeing the dweebs board first, get over it, whats your hurry first class and all the special boarders, you can walk on last and not have people pushing by you and the plane can leave sooner with a lot less disruption. this wouldn't cure the carry on problem, give americans a inch and they will take a foot about time they started to enforce the carry on size!!

Actually back to front isn't the fastest. You have also have to consider loading outside in. It's actually kinda complicated to figure out, they pay people a lot of money to figure it out :rolleyes 

 

The primary problem is that you have people who are in zone 1/A w/e that don't want to get on the plane until latter and screw the whole process up 

post #73 of 78

I always carry my boots with me on board these days.   Usually i sling them over my backpack, then I can put them in the overhead bin without taking up much room, and keep the backpack beneath my feet for easy access to my things while in flight.

 

I once owned one of those triangular boot bags - big mistake, because they don't fit in the overheads.

post #74 of 78
Darent has a point though. A lot of airline profit is based on 1stclass flyers. And now early boarding upgrades.
So yes they let them board first and serve them preflight drink so they feel special and appreciated and have some of the tradional mystique of flying and coverup that you stil are on basically a flying bus.

Nobody flying commercial really is so much of a diva to really need a cocktail to chug in the 20min before takeoff. They are just business people who are frugal travellera too that want a taste of luxury and used points or upgrades. If they were really in a different social class they'd fly private. And even if its a cushy leather chair, the gate chairs or club lounge chairs are more spacious. So yes its to make you feel special and maintain profit which overrides boarding algorithms
post #75 of 78

Flying Soutwest when my kids were small I used to try and board last so my kids would be sitting with someone else. Actually worked once or twice. Usually they moved somebody so we sat together, but no harm in trying. 

post #76 of 78
I flew UA last night and the have the new right sizers at all the gates. But I did not see any enforcement.
post #77 of 78

I ended up putting my boots into my roller bag stuffed with my base layers and put my helmet in a small backpack with other things that wouldn't fit in my roller.

 

It worked perfectly.   Frontier had me in zone 2 of 4 for some reason and that allowed me to have a ton of room for my roller in the overheads even though my plane was full.  They actually only had to gate check a few bags that I could see.  Seems most people just had 1 small roller bag each.

 

The guy in Minneapolis sure gave a weird look at my boots in the X-ray.   The guy in Denver, not so much..

post #78 of 78

I put my helmet in my ski bag--but I pad it well with clothes. It's a one hit helmet.

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