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Anyone know how strict United Airlines is for "personal item" dimensions?

post #1 of 78
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

I'm leaving Thursday on United and was going over their dimensions for personal item.  It's 9" x 17" x 10".  My boots are 9 x 14 x 11.5 and I'll just be carrying them with a boot-strap.    I already have a carry-on that has all my clothes, goggles, etc., so I can't claim the boots as carry-on.  Anyone fly United lately and have their boots as their personal item?  Thanks.  


Edited by Kdawg1966 - 3/3/14 at 8:07pm
post #2 of 78
Close enough. You shouldn't have a problem.
post #3 of 78

Big thread over on flyertalk.com about United's new carry on policy that went into effect the 1st of this month. The boots shouldn't be a problem, so you should be okay assuming your bad meets dimensions.

post #4 of 78

I've always used a backpack as a personal item and a large duffel as a carry-on. They're probably both oversized, but I don't want to waste money on checking bags, and no one has ever complained. I haven't flown United in a couple years though. 

post #5 of 78
Shoudl be fine. Worst case scenario they'll make you check one at no cost. I haven't realy flown on United but that's my experience on everyt airline I have flown on. Not to mention they aren't going to be measuring your stuff so as long as it's not clearly larger than the dimenions no one will say anything.
post #6 of 78

Just put the boots under your seat. What pisses both flight attendents and your fellow passengers off is when people that bring oversized or too many carry ons then take up all the room in the overhead bins. But really it's at the discretion of the gate agent, so you never know. 

post #7 of 78
I've only seen sizes of carry ons verified against that frame thing by the gate once. A lot of them failed.
Fortunately it was the gate next to mine because mine probably would have failed too.

I have seen gate agents visually screen the more obvious violations more often. Act like your stuff is small and easy to carry and you will usually be fine.
post #8 of 78

I fly to Denver on Sunday and I'm trying to get everything onto the plane myself.

 

I was thinking about putting my boots into a travel size roller suitcase with my ski pants, base layers, socks, googles etc in there as well and then bring another small backpack for everything else that won't fit in the suitcase (helmet).  Of course my size 12 boots take up most of the room inside, but I can put my base layer stuff and socks into the boots.

 

Would I be better off just carrying the boots on and then putting all my stuff into the roller suitcase?   Either way I'm carrying two things on...

 

The weather looks warmer than I had expected so I don't need to bring as much clothing as I first expected, which is nice...

post #9 of 78

I fly United all the time, if it fits in the overhead, you're golden. If not, it gets checked.  Simple. 

post #10 of 78
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

I fly United all the time, if it fits in the overhead, you're golden. If not, it gets checked.  Simple. 

 

Good to hear.  Thanks for all the replies, fella's.  

post #11 of 78

I think you'll be fine, but I can see a time when they really start cracking down not too far in the future.  It's all about the money.

post #12 of 78

Or you can check you bag like I did with Delta last month on way to Denver.  And have them lose it. 

 

Luckily I carried on boots and basics, so first ski day wasn't a disaster.

post #13 of 78
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Originally Posted by focker View Post
 

I fly to Denver on Sunday and I'm trying to get everything onto the plane myself.

 

I was thinking about putting my boots into a travel size roller suitcase with my ski pants, base layers, socks, googles etc in there as well and then bring another small backpack for everything else that won't fit in the suitcase (helmet).  Of course my size 12 boots take up most of the room inside, but I can put my base layer stuff and socks into the boots.

 

Would I be better off just carrying the boots on and then putting all my stuff into the roller suitcase?   Either way I'm carrying two things on...

 

The weather looks warmer than I had expected so I don't need to bring as much clothing as I first expected, which is nice...

ONly risk to putting boots in the roller bag is if they run out of overhead space they will make you check it

post #14 of 78

I'm on a direct so I'm not too worried about that...  I wouldn't be real happy, but whatever. 

post #15 of 78

So there was just a news article that they're cracking down on the size of personal items, but i don't think you have an issue with your size and being fined, but that also depends how big is your other carryon.  You will potentially just be made to fit them under seat.

 

Next, it also depends what plane you're flying on.  If you're on a small plane (2seats/row) expect small overhead space, where even those standard roller bags only fit sideways, expect all the overhead space to be gone unless you have status or any kind of priority boarding.  Maybe you want to consider paying to get economy plus or early boarding if you value your footroom.

 

If you're on a 737 or bigger plane where it's 3seats/row it should be a bit better and OK.  

post #16 of 78
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Originally Posted by raytseng View Post
 

So there was just a news article that they're cracking down on the size of personal items

I'm also flying this weekend and haven't flown since last year. Is this an industry-wide crackdown? Because my personal items are completely out of control--usually a backpack stuffed as full as I can possibly make it. This year I bought a new (and even bigger) backpack that's supposed to fit my boots in the bottom of it. If they continue sticking with the "can fit under the seat" rule, I should be good. You can fit a lot under seats. 

post #17 of 78

articles were specifically about a very recent United crackdown/policy enforcement campaign:

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=united+airlines+carry+on&source=univ&tbm=nws

post #18 of 78
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Originally Posted by raytseng View Post
 

articles were specifically about a very recent United crackdown/policy enforcement campaign:

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=united+airlines+carry+on&source=univ&tbm=nws

Thanks. I'll have to keep that in mind if I ever fly United. I use a duffel as a carryon, and it's longer than those sizing things, but because I usually have clothes in it and because it isn't a hard shell, it squishes down easily enough

post #19 of 78
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Originally Posted by focker View Post
 

I fly to Denver on Sunday and I'm trying to get everything onto the plane myself.

 

I was thinking about putting my boots into a travel size roller suitcase with my ski pants, base layers, socks, googles etc in there as well and then bring another small backpack for everything else that won't fit in the suitcase (helmet).  Of course my size 12 boots take up most of the room inside, but I can put my base layer stuff and socks into the boots.

 

Would I be better off just carrying the boots on and then putting all my stuff into the roller suitcase?   Either way I'm carrying two things on...

 

The weather looks warmer than I had expected so I don't need to bring as much clothing as I first expected, which is nice...

This is what I do, put my boots and some ski cloths in a standard size rolling carry-on.  Then I don't have to carry heavy boots around and I can wear my regular backpack with laptop, camera, etc. as well.

post #20 of 78

Thanks Crank.   I actually put my boots into the suitcase already to see how they fit and they take up almost the entire damn suitcase!  Me and my freaking huge feet.   Luckily those huge boots can fit a lot inside.  I think I can put everything but my extra clothes and helmet into the suitcase.   So I'll just need a backpack with my helmet, a pair of jeans and a couple shirts.   Should be fine.

 

I plan on packing up all my stuff Saturday afternoon to make sure I have room for everything just in case...

post #21 of 78

I've tried putting my boots in a suitcase but I find it easier to just pack everything in a roller or backpack and carry my shoes.  There's also a risk that the gate agent will take away the roller (especially on smaller planes), but they all know better than to try to take away anyone's ski boots. YMMV.

 

BK

post #22 of 78

I'm going to look into what I'm flying here to get a better idea on that.   I've only had my roller taken away when boarding towards the end of the group, which I actually like to do.  The less time on the plane the better, IMO...

post #23 of 78

Well I'm on an Airbus A320 on the way out there which is your standard 3 per side jet that should have plenty of overhead room.  That makes things easier..   I like the idea of bringing the suitcase and the backpack so I can easily take the backpack to the hill with me...

post #24 of 78
Regarding United, and maybe I am the only ill informed person still flying. Be sure you check in on line 24 hrs. Before departure. Last Sat. in Denver had a 9:55 AM departure and I was at the counter at 6:45 AM .

When I printed my ticket it said see agent at gate for seat assignment. This is never a good thing. I found out I was the last person to check in (everybody did on line) and the flight was over booked and I had no seat.

Luckily somebody took their I think $ 200 deal to give up their seat and I got on the flight. If some super Priority United flyer would have wanted on .that flight they could have bumped me.

So as I was sweating this out at the gate waiting to see if I would get on and learning if a Triple Platinum or whatever frequent United traveller suddenly wanted to fly to Pittsburgh on this flight , I wasn't going to leave till 6 o' clock that night.

So I called our company Travel Agency since they book travel for 60,000 world wide employees thinking they might have some stroke with United after learning not all passengers get treated the same at United.

It got worse, as United told the agency I was ticketed to be,on the 6 PM flight anyway! Never was and my Confirmation number proved this Thank God.y t

My people could not help me as the seats were under United airport control at this juncture. I was lucky to get a seat and learned a lesson , to always the night before check in .

Just 1 more thing to obsess about when you travel.

Plane ended up finally leaving the gate at 2:10. Weather was bad in Denver and we had to wait for getting a slot to get de- iced. GUy beside me on the plane thought our flight was low priority to get out ASAP because it was going to,PIttsburgh and there were probably fewer connections that had to be made there.

Who knows, with the airlines anymore this probably had merit.
post #25 of 78
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Originally Posted by focker View Post
 

Well I'm on an Airbus A320 on the way out there which is your standard 3 per side jet that should have plenty of overhead room.  That makes things easier..   I like the idea of bringing the suitcase and the backpack so I can easily take the backpack to the hill with me...

There's not much room in my carry on suitcase once I put my boots in it.  You might have more room if you pack the backpack, put that in the suitcase with other stuff, and carry you boots.  In any event, even a small possibility that I'll have to gate check my boots is a deal breaker for me.

 

BK

post #26 of 78

Both Today show and Chicago's NBC affiliate had segments this morning, but with somewhat conflicting information.

 

Both said that customers with oversized bags would be forced to check them for a fee.  The affiliate in Chicago (United's base) said that customer would have to return to the ticket counter!

 

Roundturns:  If they deny boarding you,  they violate Rule 240 and owe considerable compensation.  That's why they always offer flight credit first.

post #27 of 78
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Originally Posted by tarvolon View Post

I'm also flying this weekend and haven't flown since last year. Is this an industry-wide crackdown? Because my personal items are completely out of control--usually a backpack stuffed as full as I can possibly make it. This year I bought a new (and even bigger) backpack that's supposed to fit my boots in the bottom of it. If they continue sticking with the "can fit under the seat" rule, I should be good. You can fit a lot under seats. 

I wonder this every time I see one of you guys: Why? Why do people stuff their entire lives into a massive backpack and duffel bag to save 25 bucks? Isn't it a pain in the ass for you? Because it's a pain in the ass for everyone near you.
post #28 of 78
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post

Close enough. You shouldn't have a problem.


The've been pretty lenient with "close enough" for the past few years.  However, now they're going back to making you put your bag/item in this box.  If it doesn't COMPLETELY fit you're out of luck:hopmad:

 

post #29 of 78
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Originally Posted by JoeUT View Post


I wonder this every time I see one of you guys: Why? Why do people stuff their entire lives into a massive backpack and duffel bag to save 25 bucks? Isn't it a pain in the ass for you? Because it's a pain in the ass for everyone near you.

It's not a $25 pain in the ass. If I were carrying nothing and you offered me $25 to lug your stuff around the airport and airplane, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Two bags aren't that heavy. 

 

But it might be worth noting here that I'm a grad student. I haven't been to a restaurant without entrees under $10 in six months at least. I've frequently carried two bags a mile to the subway, then on three different trains before even getting to the airport, just to avoid however much a 20 minute cab ride costs. $25 might be more important to me than it is to you. 

post #30 of 78
Market has spoken, don't blame the users, blame the airline.
Fly southwest or jetblue where 2 bags or 1 bag is free, and you easily see there's plenty of overhead space and what flying used to be like.  
 
I can only assume the space in the united cargo holds are now a lot more empty, so it's not the plane is flying lighter, just more cramped up top.
 
I was flying jetblue and too used to the united scramble and maximizing the space for my bag, then the flight attendent said don't worry about it, there's plenty of space to go around, and indeed many of the overheads were only half full by takeoff.
 
Meanwhile on an United flight, if you were in general boarding (i.e. no status) all overhead was gone even if you were the first person in group3. 
The $25 made a huge difference in user behavior
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