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post #31 of 50
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The pricing structure, such that the CX/SX/AX are significantly less expensive (by Stockli standards) than the SC.
As far as I can see on the Stöckli website, all Laser skis with no binding option--whether FIS or non-FIS--are priced the same at CHF 890.
post #32 of 50

Skied the 115 and it was very different from other Stockli, very soft, doesn't load up energy, and quiet. On the lift it seemed cumbersome, but on snow it was so easy to move around it was bizarre and unexpected. Skied much shorter than it's 195 length. Didn't get enough time on it to really figure out what it could do. I will say this: for certain it's the best looking ski Stockli has produced. Schmidt is on it in the latest Salomon tv episode: http://www.powdermag.com/videos/video-scot-schmidt/


The AX is exactly what you'd expect, great all-mountain Stockli carver made easier for the intermediate and powerful enough for the ex-racer.

Skied the SX last week at Deer Valley. Crazy fast, strong, powerful, easy.....Like mentioned above it is smokin'. But I think they should make a longer version in the non-FIS model.

 

Took the 95 out and I would say you could probably put it in the best all around ski ever made competition and likely win or get a podium spot. Carves like the SX, floats like any other ski in its category, ridiculously stable. It took me about 6 runs to get the feel for it but after that I was hooked. Sure it's a little heavy, but its so nimble you don't care. Anyone that really buys it isn't taking it to the park anyway. They are buying it for one reason. To go fast anywhere, lay it over, and hold on.

Have not skied the 100 or the 88. curious to see what those are like.

post #33 of 50

@vettej

 

Nice review, thanks. If you can share the lengths of the skis you demoed and your stats, it would be helpful...It looks like I need to add the 95 to my demo list, before replacing my beat-up '12 FX94 with '14.

post #34 of 50
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Sure it's a little heavy...

The Stormrider 95 is one of the lightest skis in its class, maybe the lightest, at each length increment. Does it ski heavy?

post #35 of 50

 

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The Stormrider 95 is one of the lightest skis in its class, maybe the lightest, at each length increment. Does it ski heavy?

 

I'd say this is absolutely true as long as we are considering metal layup skis. In fact, the SR 100 is claimed to be even lighter than the 95 although the weights published are for differing lengths.There are some non metal skis that are lighter and others that have very thin metal that are probably close but IAC, the SR series are not heavy skis.

 

SJ

post #36 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

The Stormrider 95 is one of the lightest skis in its class, maybe the lightest, at each length increment. Does it ski heavy?


It does not ski heavy at all, it's highly versatile. On piste you can make quite narrow turns but it keeps very stable at speed without feeling overdamped.

post #37 of 50

Maybe it just felt heavy in hand with the demo binding on them. they definitely don't ski heavy other than the fact that they are very damp while eating up chop and ice. I guess the best way to describe it would be that they ski very damp but maintain a lively response.

 

post #38 of 50
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post
 

@vettej

 

Nice review, thanks. If you can share the lengths of the skis you demoed and your stats, it would be helpful...It looks like I need to add the 95 to my demo list, before replacing my beat-up '12 FX94 with '14.

I would suggest making a day out of it, it may take you some time to get acquainted with the ski, but once you do you'll be sold.

post #39 of 50

I skied the 115 in the 195.

the AX in the 175

the SX in the 178

I skied both the 95 in both 174 and 183.

 

I am 5'10" 185 lbs. 28 years on snow. 33 years old. 

 

post #40 of 50
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Suspect ??

 

I've been on many of these already and will have a pretty big test fleet in the store within about 10 days-2 weeks. There are some interesting things going on here including at least one that I missed this season. That being the SR 100. Here are quick highlights.

 

SR 100: The 100 is lighter in weight than the 95 but most notably, it's different in feel. The 100 is softer torsionally and easier to ski in transitional snow because it releases easier. Not quite the power of the 95. Personally, I think I like it better.

 

SR 88: I guessed that this would be a Kastle MX88 type ski, but it's not that at all. Rather this continues the "new" Stockli Stormrider philosophy of softer flex, high torsion and very damp skis. This is very grippy and smooth and much more soft snow/bump compliant than the Kastle. However the much stiffer Kastle is more stable at the highest speeds. The SR 88 does have metal.

 

SR 115: This is Stockli's first stab at a wide ski with some of the newer elements of shape and profile. This ski has much more rocker than the rest of the SR series and also more taper. Still not stiff at all and I expect the most damp and best grip of this width class. I haven't skied this one yet and probably won't if more snow doesn't happen out here.

 

SJ

would the 100 compliment the Line P90 and sick day 110 or is that enough of a two ski quiver.  I also have a Bluehouse district in a 105 that i can't stop skiing on eastern variable conditions!  decisions decisions?  help me SJ

post #41 of 50
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Skied the SX last week at Deer Valley. Crazy fast, strong, powerful, easy.....Like mentioned above it is smokin'. But I think they should make a longer version in the non-FIS model.
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the SX in the 178
I think the SC and the SX fill the gap between SL and GS (on the non-FIS side) nicely, SC being closer to SL, and SX to the other, hence 170 or 178 being the ideal length.... but SX >178cm??
post #42 of 50
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would the 100 compliment the Line P90 and sick day 110 or is that enough of a two ski quiver.  I also have a Bluehouse district in a 105 that i can't stop skiing on eastern variable conditions!  decisions decisions?  help me SJ


Probably not the kinda help you are looking for (or.....maybeso...?) I personally feel that I could replace both of the lines with the SR 100. I haven't skied any BH skis but I suspect that one could fall away as well. Basically, you could replace three overlapping skis with one that would be better at most everything those three can do.

 

Imagine all the other skis you could buy with your quiver basically cleaned out like that.....................:D

 

What I mean by that is this. If you had the SR 100 as the "anchor" to your quiver you would then be able to get real frontsider and maybe a real powder ski (neither of which you currently have)

 

SJ

post #43 of 50
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Originally Posted by vettej 

Skied the 115 and it was very different from other Stockli, very soft, doesn't load up energy, and quiet. On the lift it seemed cumbersome, but on snow it was so easy to move around it was bizarre and unexpected. Skied much shorter than it's 195 length. Didn't get enough time on it to really figure out what it could do. I will say this: for certain it's the best looking ski Stockli has produced. Schmidt is on it in the latest Salomon tv episode: http://www.powdermag.com/videos/video-scot-schmidt/
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I thought it skied tip long in the 195....not short but true to size.
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Originally Posted by vettej 
Took the 95 out and I would say you could probably put it in the best all around ski ever made competition and likely win or get a podium spot. Carves like the SX, floats like any other ski in its category, ridiculously stable. It took me about 6 runs to get the feel for it but after that I was hooked. Sure it's a little heavy, but its so nimble you don't care. Anyone that really buys it isn't taking it to the park anyway. They are buying it for one reason. To go fast anywhere, lay it over, and hold on.

Agreed. Best ski I have ever been on.
post #44 of 50
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Probably not the kinda help you are looking for (or.....maybeso...?) I personally feel that I could replace both of the lines with the SR 100. I haven't skied any BH skis but I suspect that one could fall away as well. Basically, you could replace three overlapping skis with one that would be better at most everything those three can do.

 

Imagine all the other skis you could buy with your quiver basically cleaned out like that.....................:D

 

What I mean by that is this. If you had the SR 100 as the "anchor" to your quiver you would then be able to get real frontsider and maybe a real powder ski (neither of which you currently have)

 

SJ

oh boy, this could get complicated. thanks for the advice ( i think) just kidding!  I will have to settle with this current quiver for a while until my wife forgets how much money was spent on current quiver.

post #45 of 50
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oh boy, this could get complicated. thanks for the advice ( i think) just kidding!  I will have to settle with this current quiver for a while until my wife forgets how much money was spent on current quiver.

 

Just to make this more complicated...........................:D   Here's a review from Wednesday @ lunchtime from one of our testers. Tall woman, maybe 40 y/o very good skier, on the SR 100 174. She normally skis a Kastle MX 88 and FX 94.

 

Hi Jim-

 

Ok these skis frickin rock!!!!!! I love love love them. Amazing on a groomer - I had first tracks on Sibo corduroy and they were fast (no chatter), held their edges and carved beautifully. Then I went into untracked powder - insane - just floated effortlessly. Next I took them down North Face in windblown skiied out powder - pushed through everything. Went through some soft bumps below bullet - so easy to maneuver and crazy responsive. I have been all over the mountain this morning and have hit every condition - these skis handle everything. I love these more than my Kastle's!!!!!!Everyone is always looking for one ski that does it all - I know I have tried - these skis come as close as it gets.

Ok I am headed back out after slamming down lunch to find more pow and have more fun on these bad boys!!!!

 

 Best,

Cyn

 

SJ

post #46 of 50
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Originally Posted by thekidd326 View Post
 

oh boy, this could get complicated. thanks for the advice ( i think) just kidding!  I will have to settle with this current quiver for a while until my wife forgets how much money was spent on current quiver.

 

Just to make this more complicated...........................:D   Here's a review from Wednesday @ lunchtime from one of our testers. Tall woman, maybe 40 y/o very good skier, on the SR 100 174. She normally skis a Kastle MX 88 and FX 94.

 

Hi Jim-

 

Ok these skis frickin rock!!!!!! I love love love them. Amazing on a groomer - I had first tracks on Sibo corduroy and they were fast (no chatter), held their edges and carved beautifully. Then I went into untracked powder - insane - just floated effortlessly. Next I took them down North Face in windblown skiied out powder - pushed through everything. Went through some soft bumps below bullet - so easy to maneuver and crazy responsive. I have been all over the mountain this morning and have hit every condition - these skis handle everything. I love these more than my Kastle's!!!!!!Everyone is always looking for one ski that does it all - I know I have tried - these skis come as close as it gets.

Ok I am headed back out after slamming down lunch to find more pow and have more fun on these bad boys!!!!

 

 Best,

Cyn

 

SJ

 

 

:worthless

 

The info about the skis is good, though.

 

Meanwhile, I can hear the wheels turning in beyond's mind: "Phil and Jim have masterminded a flood of ursine intrerest in Stockli for the 2014-15 season." :)

post #47 of 50
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:worthless

 

The info about the skis is good, though.

 

Meanwhile, I can hear the wheels turning in beyond's mind: "Phil and Jim have masterminded a flood of ursine intrerest in Stockli for the 2014-15 season." :)

 

OKso...........ya want pics of the ski or pics of Cyndi? What yer probly gonna get is a little vid review by me (I know......ugh!) when (If) she brings 'em back? Trying to convince her to a vid testimonial as well but timing may not work out. I have a couple other women out on the SR motion and will pass on their comments when I get them. The great thing about Cyn is that she's used to high end skis (Kastles) and really does ski the whole mountain. We weaned her off of some Mantras a couple years back. Funny thing was, she thought they were the beans until we got her on some skis that flex.

 

Stockli is putting their marketing mostly behind the 95 and 107 and justly so, but the 100 is a gem as well.

 

Ohhh......BTW.......I don't think Phil and I are smart enough to mastermind much of anything.

 

SJ

post #48 of 50
I think @beyond skis Stockli, so he approves.

These skis do "fricken rock". And they have to, for the price. I really wish I could justify owning them. And maybe i should because life is too short. I just bought another pair of Bonafides:-)
Edited by alexzn - 4/5/14 at 12:07am
post #49 of 50

You bought another pair of Bonafides??? Time to let go....move on....

Hey, if you got a really good price on them, you might be able to make a little money for the Stockli's. Someone was looking in the wanted section.

post #50 of 50
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I would love to see the FX94/84 and the SR95 side by side especially from the side angle.
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