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post #1 of 14
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My daughter Angie, 6 1/2 years old skiing black slopes fast in the Alps.....she really loves skiing and i hope she will not be riuned by masters who want her to start racing.....
I've seen too many times kids that loose interest because they started racing too young.
I think instead she should continue skking just for fun for at least an other 2 or 3 years, and only after, if she wants, start training with gates....
Any personal experience with your kids would be helpful....wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzhSw-1e0uo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
post #2 of 14

She looks great and ski racing won't hurt her at all.  Lot's of kids start racing at that age and do just fine...if she doesn't like it then don't do it but you won't know till you try it.

post #3 of 14
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Hi thank you for your reply! I see your point, of course racing can also be funny, but I have a past of racing when I was young, and after some years, even though I had some good results, I found myself envying those guys who could just ski for fun, doing off-piste and whatever they wanted instead of being stuck everyday doing gates....rolleyes.gif

My idea would be letting her doing some gates training and only a couple of races a year, just for fun with no pressure at all....and instead working on her free-skiing ability in any terrain and conditions.

Here in Italy skiclubs and trainers tend to focus too much on gates training and much less on fun, and I believe that at this age is too early to focus only on races and can be even counterproductive...technically
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Hi thank you for your reply! I see your point, of course racing can also be funny, but I have a past of racing when I was young, and after some years, even though I had some good results, I found myself envying those guys who could just ski for fun, doing off-piste and whatever they wanted instead of being stuck everyday doing gates....rolleyes.gif

My idea would be letting her doing some gates training and only a couple of races a year, just for fun with no pressure at all....and instead working on her free-skiing ability in any terrain and conditions.

Here in Italy skiclubs and trainers tend to focus too much on gates training and much less on fun, and I believe that at this age is too early to focus only on races and can be even counterproductive...technicall

I have 2 kids (girls) who started racing at 6 and 5 respectively and now 5 years later they love to race and to free ski.  No my oldest is starting to only want to run gates and not free ski and that is bothering me so we may have more off days with dad/mom to try to nip that in the bud.  There are some underlying social reasons why I think she feels that way with her team but the team/club spends ~1/2 of their time freeskiing the whole mountain.  Of course most of the time that means skiing around looking for things to huck their meat off of:eek

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Lol....biggrin.gif
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Great video, she looks like a blast to ski with. Racing's good but so is off-piste and free skiing. I have a son who did 1 year at age about 8 of ski club racing. He wasn't really into it structure and all that, he kept taking off and wasn't into the team thing but the few skills he did learn really have stayed with him 8-9 years later in his free skiing. Daughter did high school racing for just 1 year then team got cut, she loved it and wished she had done more ski race training earlier. She is a bit like your girl likes speed. Tough to keep up with on the open slopes. I need to have some trees when skiing with her to level the playing field ha ha.

post #7 of 14

Just keep in mind that the most common reason kids quit any competitive sport is pressure from their parents.   Also keep in mind that kids will try multiple activities--they may try them for a while and get hooked or may drop them and try something else. When they try and drop a few things it doesn't mean they're quitters, it just means they haven't found something they really like.  The main thing is to avoid pressure and to avoid making a big financial commitment unless you see that they have real interest and talent.

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Great video, she looks like a blast to ski with. Racing's good but so is off-piste and free skiing. I have a son who did 1 year at age about 8 of ski club racing. He wasn't really into it structure and all that, he kept taking off and wasn't into the team thing but the few skills he did learn really have stayed with him 8-9 years later in his free skiing. Daughter did high school racing for just 1 year then team got cut, she loved it and wished she had done more ski race training earlier. She is a bit like your girl likes speed. Tough to keep up with on the open slopes. I need to have some trees when skiing with her to level the playing field ha ha.
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Thanks Snowbowler, love to hear others experiences, and I also think that at this stage is better to focus on fun, freeskiing, off-piste and, only occasionally, gates and races.
Tehcnically speaking I've heard that kids who only did race training from a young age didn't develop a strong technique because limited to what they have to do within gates.
Also we must deal with each individual carachter....and my daughter is pretty competitive:rolleyes
An other nightmare, honestly, is for parents....: for racing they require partecipating at least to 10 races a season, in different resorts, doing warm up runs at a crazy early hours rolleyes.gif
I think this is someway too much for these little kids, I tend to agree with those who think that are their parents pushing them to be the next Ligety or Vonn.....
post #9 of 14
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Just keep in mind that the most common reason kids quit any competitive sport is pressure from their parents.   Also keep in mind that kids will try multiple activities--they may try them for a while and get hooked or may drop them and try something else. When they try and drop a few things it doesn't mean they're quitters, it just means they haven't found something they really like.  The main thing is to avoid pressure and to avoid making a big financial commitment unless you see that they have real interest and talent.

Thanks Oldgoat, very clever and wise comment, I agree 100%, and I also add that an other thing that dampen my enthusiasm for racing is the absurd behaviour of some parents during training and racing sessions, you coulnd't beleive what my ears heard...frown.gif
post #10 of 14

She looks pretty ready for the race program, so she should try it.  A good race program will spend a good amount of time freeskiing anyway.  One thing in favor of race programs at least here is that the kids get to use coaches as pretty good role models for technique, which is in most cases way better than parents.  You have race background and probably are a pretty good skier, so that's less of a concern to you.  The peer pressure factor that pushes the kids to get better is a very big advantage of the teams.  My kids are on the ski teams and are enjoying it a lot so far.  The advice to avoid pressure is spot on.  

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She looks pretty ready for the race program, so she should try it.  A good race program will spend a good amount of time freeskiing anyway.  One thing in favor of race programs at least here is that the kids get to use coaches as pretty good role models for technique, which is in most cases way better than parents.  You have race background and probably are a pretty good skier, so that's less of a concern to you.  The peer pressure factor that pushes the kids to get better is a very big advantage of the teams.  My kids are on the ski teams and are enjoying it a lot so far.  The advice to avoid pressure is spot on.  


Thanks Alexn, I got your point, may I ask you how many hours do your kids spend with the coaches and how many days is your ski team programme in a season. How old are they and how many races do they need to partecipate each year?

post #12 of 14

At that age, make sure the coaches make it fun.

 

I was swimming laps last night and the coach of the local swim club was just berating the kids.  I didn't see many of them smiling.

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Thanks Alexn, I got your point, may I ask you how many hours do your kids spend with the coaches and how many days is your ski team programme in a season. How old are they and how many races do they need to partecipate each year?

The program here runs every weekend and kids are with coaches 9am-2:30pm.  The age of kids in the program ranges 5-17 and the number of races and comps varies, but generally the minimum is two per season.  

P.S. Squaw Valley is also known for emphasizing the free skiing component, even for the race and freestyle teams. Big Mountain team obviously free-skis all the time.  

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The program here runs every weekend and kids are with coaches 9am-2:30pm.  The age of kids in the program ranges 5-17 and the number of races and comps varies, but generally the minimum is two per season.  
P.S. Squaw Valley is also known for emphasizing the free skiing component, even for the race and freestyle teams. Big Mountain team obviously free-skis all the time.  

I like the Usa approach generally, you have certainly a better sport culture and modern vision. The multidiscipline approach, as I previously said in an other post, is what helped Usa to have strong champions in all different disciplines in the recent years.
OT: I did freeride for many years and worked for an italian ski magazine realizing many freeride reportage in different locations throughout Usa and Canada, but unfortunately I have never been to Squaw Valley....I hope I can sson plan to come with my daughter for some powder days....what do you think is the best time of the year? February is a good bet?
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