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Absorb bumps while carving?

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Thread Starter 
Today I went to the local molehill after a big thaw/rain/freeze. It was icy, that's expected, but what I didn't count on is the surface isn't flat, but full of undulations, not ice chunks or death cookies, but sorta like very shallow sparse invisible moguls.

In order to make the ski hold at higher edge angle, I had to exert a lot of down pressure on the front section, but because I'm doing this, my legs aren't as flexible. Whenever I hit a bump, it would send my skis flying and temporarily lose balance, so I had to dial down the edge angle to regain it. But if I were to keep my legs flexible enough to absorb them I can't push hard enough to make the skis hold, and since I can't see the bumps I can't prepare either.

How should I deal with conditions like this?
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post #3 of 9
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Pretty blond and fireplace do sounds good, but with the short season that's also about to end, I'm going as much as I can. frown.gif

Going again tonight, if it's still the same I'll see what I can figure out.
post #4 of 9

Its a tricky question but not uncommon to racers at speed events. Racers solve part of this problem by using longer more stable skis. At the same time your turn radius might increase so that has to be considered as well.

post #5 of 9

the best way to deal with this is fast one footed (downhill ski traverse) over the bumps while constantly pushing your foot back down to maintain contact, take this to high speed one footed turns with the same emphasis on keeping your outside foot planted.  do this for a couple days and you should be able to hold high edge angle over not smooth terrain. 

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
So keep pushing skis back down and more practice, got it. biggrin.gif
post #7 of 9

There is a concept called functional tension. Vic Gerdin once asked our group "Is the crud knocking your skis around?" When we said yes, he said "Well then, just don't let it knock your skis around". How about that for simple advice from a former PSIA demo team coach? He did go on to explain the concept of opposing muscles firing at the same time so that you can allow and resist movement at the same time. Think of how a shock absorber works. It's always pressing down to keep the wheels on the road, yet when a bump comes along it absorbs the bump with up movement while at the same time increasing downward force to maintain contact. This is how we ski in the bumps, yet somehow when the undulations are smaller or the movement is sideways to the skis it's harder to do.

 

So how we do it better? Strangely enough, the advice to just "not let" getting knocked around happen works pretty good on its own. You can also practice playing shock absorber with a buddy using your hands and arms. Press both hands against each others hands with a small amount of force pressing together. Then one buddy randomly applies extra force in sudden bursts (and then returns back to the starting force). The absorber has to let his or her hands get pushed closer before pushing back and trying to get the hands to the original position as smoothly as possible.

post #8 of 9

Legs as McPherson struts works for me.

post #9 of 9

active bound is as important as active rebound. if we are talking active car suspensions :).

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