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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I've got my ski binding installed by the shop and I am looking on receipt shop gave me and have just one question:

 

skier type: 3

weight: 200

height 6'

age: 40

sex: male

 

boot sole length: 324

 

initial setting: 8.5

 

final setting:

 

left toe: 8.5

left heel: 8.5

 

right toe: 8.0

right heal: 8.5

 

Why right toe is different from anything else? Is this just a paper typo?

How can I see the difference on the binding between 8.5 and 8.0?

-- binding: Salomon STH2 13

 

Thank you,

 

Oleg

post #2 of 10

What is that toe piece actually set at? If it is different than the rest, ask the shop who did the work.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GorgeSkier View Post
 

What is that toe piece actually set at? If it is different than the rest, ask the shop who did the work.


I don't know, as way as I see it, everything is set to 8, the din setting doesn't have 0.5, so everything is set to 8 (or may be it is 8.5) but I don't know to to check the difference

post #4 of 10
Looks like the chart gave an initial setting of 8.5 and testing showed one toe needed a slightly lower setting to meet that.
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 
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Originally Posted by GorgeSkier View Post
 

What is that toe piece actually set at? If it is different than the rest, ask the shop who did the work.


I don't know, as way as I see it, everything is set to 8, the din setting doesn't have 0.5, so everything is set to 8 (or may be it is 8.5) but I don't know to to check the difference


There is a line/indicator that moves up and down with numbers and tick marks on either side of the window.  It's like measuring the length of something with a ruler.  You have to interpolate between the tick marks.

Your ruler may only be marked in centimeters (using metric because it's easier), with millimeter tick marks, but you measure to the nearest tenth of a millimeter (with the last digit being "estimated").  You could estimate to the nearest 32nd if your tick marks only went to 1/16ths.

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by JimH View Post

Looks like the chart gave an initial setting of 8.5 and testing showed one toe needed a slightly lower setting to meet that.

This.  After the binding was set they measured the force needed to release the binding and one toe required more than the specified amount of force, so they lowered the DIN, retested, and the toe released at the specified force for 8.5.

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

I took a pictures (with my cell phone) 2 toes and 2 heels, don't really see the difference and can not really say if it is 8 or 8.5, seems like the toes and heels are identical.

by previous explanation, I would assume that everything done right, I just should ignore the receipt.

 

 

 

 

post #8 of 10
@Oleg S, by my eye I read the settings this way:

1st toe pic: 7
2nd toe pic: 8 or just under 8
1st heel pic: 8.5 or close to it
2nd heel pic: 8.5 or close to it

Pay careful attention to the scale markings as they flip direction from the heel to toe piece.

Whoever did the mount needs to reset and retest the settings, IMO.
Edited by GorgeSkier - 2/23/14 at 8:33am
post #9 of 10

Looks like the labeling is a bit off for the toes, so testing would be good.

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by GorgeSkier View Post

@Oleg S, by my eye I read the settings this way:

1st toe pic: 7
2nd toe pic: 8 or just under 8
1st heel pic: 8.5 or close to it
2nd heel pic: 8.5 or close to it

Pay careful attention to the scale markings as they flip direction from the heel to toe piece.

Whoever did the mount needs to reset and retest the settings, IMO.

The toe pictures are hard to interpret--they're taken from a bit of an angle and with the indicator recessed below the scale parallax could easily explain the appearance. It does look like the second toe is 1/2 a step higher than the first. The fact that the shop deliberately set the one toe lower than the other 3 pieces suggests to me that they tested and adjusted carefully. No harm in asking the shop about it, but I wouldn't get too excited about it and I see no reason to suspect that anyone did anything wrong. Also--the difference between 8 and 9 in the toes is very thin, DIN values are not exact science but a rough approximation--after all the weight, height, and BSL brackets, not to mention the ability brackets, are very broad. BTW some shops will simply fail a binding that doesn't test to specs and refuse to adjust it to spec release values and just tell you you need new bindings, although maybe not when the difference is half a step. Another question--did the shop want one boot or two? Most shops ask for one boot and adjust both bindings to it, but with a used set of boots, differences in wear can cause release values to vary, so if they tested with both boots I would assume they labelled the skis left and right and if so you should use the skis that way. That said, I've never had them ask for both boots and I've always used the skis interchangeably. Like I said, it's an inexact science.

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