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A "stay forward" revelation...and question

post #1 of 11
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I had one of those "click" moments today when skiing.  I'm well aware that most people tend to get stuck in the backseat while learning/improving, and I have tried to avoid it.  However, I think I've been "leaning forward" wrong all along, as I believe I was actually tipping my head forward (and hence actually pushing my rear end even further back).  I've never been a very flexible guy.

 

Today, I felt the sensation of keeping my whole body forward and it made a huge difference in my skiing.  I've been doing the 30 days of 30 minutes of squatting per day from the ski exercises thread and I think that has loosened my shins up enough to do so.  That, along with the mental clicking that I need to be up more on the balls of my feet almost sticking my chest forward (instead of just my head) to the point where I feel almost weightless during the transition, has given me a whole new level of confidence.  I was comfortably cruzing down runs that just a week ago I would not have dared even try.  Even the runs that I normally do were much more fun, as being forward I got to experience that feeling of weightlessness/flying/rollercoaster that had eluded me previously.

 

Now, on to my two part question.  To get forward, I often find myself almost bouncing forward when I come out of my turns.  This gives me that feeling of weightlessness and gets me into the proper position to get ready for the next turn.  However, at times I feel like I'm almost on the edge of popping off the hill, and if I were to hit a bump during that transition it would send me either flying off the hill or flat on my face.  Is this a normal feeling and is there any credence to this worry (IE if I hit that wrong bump would it leave me on my face)?  Or am I actually being too aggressive getting forward?

 

I realize this is tough to answer without a video but unfortunately that's not an option right now as my ski partner is done for the season.

post #2 of 11
I have felt the same sensation in my skiing but not nearly as consistent as you describe. Can you further explain the specific movements/actions you take at transition to get in the forward position?
post #3 of 11
Ahhhh! Sounds like you've hit the 'virtual bump', vcize! smile.gif
post #4 of 11

Ok now try concentrating on pressuring the fronts of your boots rather than sticking your chest out.  Think athletic stance.  You won't fall over forward - your skis will keep you from tumbling down the hill.

post #5 of 11
You don't want to be so pitched forward you have no room to recover if the skis slow down, for example, as you encounter a change in the surface.
post #6 of 11

Its all about just the right amount of balance, keep what Kneale said in mind.

 

Thumbs Up

post #7 of 11
Link to the 30/30 squat exercise?
post #8 of 11

Lito Flores' discussion of dynamic anticipation helped me very much with this subject.  More than thinking just fore and aft, it gets the mind and body commited down the line and next turn.  The feeling when it clicks is much like you describe, very freeing and fun.

post #9 of 11

Feel isn't always real...it would help to see some video.

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Vcize View Post
 

I had one of those "click" moments today when skiing.  I'm well aware that most people tend to get stuck in the backseat while learning/improving, and I have tried to avoid it.  However, I think I've been "leaning forward" wrong all along, as I believe I was actually tipping my head forward (and hence actually pushing my rear end even further back).  I've never been a very flexible guy.

 

Today, I felt the sensation of keeping my whole body forward and it made a huge difference in my skiing.  I've been doing the 30 days of 30 minutes of squatting per day from the ski exercises thread and I think that has loosened my shins up enough to do so.  That, along with the mental clicking that I need to be up more on the balls of my feet almost sticking my chest forward (instead of just my head) to the point where I feel almost weightless during the transition, has given me a whole new level of confidence.  I was comfortably cruzing down runs that just a week ago I would not have dared even try.  Even the runs that I normally do were much more fun, as being forward I got to experience that feeling of weightlessness/flying/rollercoaster that had eluded me previously.

 

Now, on to my two part question.  To get forward, I often find myself almost bouncing forward when I come out of my turns.  This gives me that feeling of weightlessness and gets me into the proper position to get ready for the next turn.  However, at times I feel like I'm almost on the edge of popping off the hill, and if I were to hit a bump during that transition it would send me either flying off the hill or flat on my face.  Is this a normal feeling and is there any credence to this worry (IE if I hit that wrong bump would it leave me on my face)?  Or am I actually being too aggressive getting forward?

 

I realize this is tough to answer without a video but unfortunately that's not an option right now as my ski partner is done for the season.

 

weightlessness sensation is a property of optimal coordination, congrats on taking the parking brake off.  Be too aggressive, its the only way you will gain an internal understanding of where that line is in yourself.

 

http://www.bettermovement.org/2009/coordination-part-ii/

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by Upgrayedd View Post

Link to the 30/30 squat exercise?

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/103984/epicski-drill-of-the-day/60#post_1683870

 

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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post
 

Feel isn't always real...it would help to see some video.

 

Unfortunately this will be difficult as my ski partner is done for the year, but I'll try and scrounge something up.

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