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post #1 of 10
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So, I made a bit of a mistake buying my first pair of boots. I didn't exactly find a professional and experienced bootfitter who can take someone rather lacking in knowledge and experience and pair me with boots that are exactly what I was looking for without knowing it. I went to a local ski shop, staffed by guys who actually ski and have a good amount of knowledge. However, I feel like it hasn't worked out too poorly for me. I got fitted into 26.5 salomon xpro 90s and they have a heat moldable liner and shell that I feel can make up slightly for the lack of specific bootfitting knowledge present in the store.

 

However, I played soccer competitively for pretty much my entire life, and, consequently, have suffered many more ankle sprains and severe twists and general stress than I would like to talk about. Most of it is in my right ankle, resulting in a permanent swelling and lack of ROM for twisting and tipping.

 

How does this affect bootfitting/what should I do to compensate? I feel like my boots right now do a decent job of molding to my foot and feel good, I sized down from my street show and have checked the shell fit and everything like that, but the lack of attention paid to my ankle is worrying me. Do liners other than the stock salomon liner provide better ankle support or fit, as the swelling occurs on the ankle bone and slightly below, which directly affects the size and shape of my heel area. Are there specific things I should ask for or look to be done with boots and liners to accommodate my ankle?

 

I feel like I've gotten somewhat lucky that I'm not experiencing pain or anything with my boots, but I may be sacrificing some performance because I feel like the comfort is coming from a little bit of extra room around the ankle, rather than from a superb fit. I rock climb pretty seriously and am used to the fit of performance shoes there and use that as my standard for a boot fit that truly hugs the foot in every way which my liners are close to, but not completely there yet.

 

Thanks for any help in advance!

post #2 of 10

What do your feet measure in centimeters?

 

mike

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

I have a Morton's toe, so I measured while standing using that as my length determinant, and both right and left foot land right on 26.5 centimeters. My boots are 306mm, in case that's relevant as well.

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I have a Morton's toe, so I measured while standing using that as my length determinant, and both right and left foot land right on 26.5 centimeters. My boots are 306mm, in case that's relevant as well.

 

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

might be relevant----read the above article and perform a shell check as described.

 

mike

post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by jmrobins3 View Post
 

How does this affect bootfitting/what should I do to compensate? I feel like my boots right now do a decent job of molding to my foot and feel good, I sized down from my street show and have checked the shell fit and everything like that, but the lack of attention paid to my ankle is worrying me.

 

 I already did that, as per my original post. I read that article before posting here. They have what seems to be the right amount of room shell wise, but may be on the larger side of that spectrum.

post #6 of 10

I measure 283mm and ski in a 27.5 shell---toes are fine---ankle locked in---I can wear a 26.5 X-Pro because the toe box is so roomy---you measure 26.5 and are in a 26.5 shell---I would think you would have more than 15mm shell check---the boot will only get looser over time.

 

wondering---- if your foot is moving around, aggravating  the ankle joint and causing problems---a custom foot bed would limit the amount of inversion/eversion (sideways roll) of you foot and stabilize the arch (better control too).

 

did you have the shell and liner heat molded?

 

mike

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My ankle doesn't really feel like it's moving around too much in there, I just know that it's exceptionally weakened and previously injured, so it seems like common sense that something would have to compensate for that because it's different than most of the population and I just got a boot that felt good and was suited to my level of skiing.

 

Are you suggesting that I should look into getting the smaller shell size? I got a blue superfeet insole, but have had that since day one, so I can't compare that versus the stock insole.

 

I had the liner heat molded and have skied around 20 days on it so far, so it has been somewhat naturally molded as well. I did not have the shell heat molded.

 

I plan on going into the shop tomorrow for other reasons, would it be useful to ask for a smaller shell size or to have the shell heat molded?

post #8 of 10

for the vast majority of people we have to down size (sorry correct size) that shell, salomon have over the years, along with other manufacturers increased the amount of internal space in their boots all because 90% or people walk into a store with untrained staff, stand on a measure of some sort and ry the red or blue boot in whatever size the gauge says.... the brands what that boot to be the one they buy so allow lots of extra space for the toes 

post #9 of 10
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I normally wear a 9.5/10 in street shoes, so I thought I was downsizing a bit, but I guess these boots run a little roomy and I didn't go down enough. Anyway, I went to the shop today and got that heat molded and thought that may help. It feels better around my ankle and removed other pressure points, but now feels more roomy in the toe - I hope this can be fixed with buckling and other things. If not, I will be sorely disappointed. Any tips for that?

post #10 of 10

of the 4 buckles on your boots, the one around your ankle is the most important as it it the only on capable of holding your feet in the rear of the boot.

 

 Wear it as tightly as you can stand long term.

 

if you were to tighten the buckles on the top of your foot (lower 2 buckles) it will only put your feet to sleep---poor decision.

 

the top one will only crimp off your calf muscle---so that only leaves the ankle buckle doing anything good.

 

I have some other thoughts you could try---pm me if you are interested,

 

mike

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