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Scrunched toes in Tecnica Cochise

post #1 of 9
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My bootfitter tells me that this boot has one shell from 22 to 23.5.  Is this true?

 

My size is 23.5.  (7.5W)  I have skiied Langes all my life and have never had to fuss with my boots.  I have a normal size foot, normal width, arch everything.  I swear the shop I went to, Alpine Haus, didn't have anything left in my size so they tried everything to get me to buy a pair of boots.  They said they can get any pair to work, blah, blah.  They said there is no difference in performance between them, etc. I think they hate me.  They fit me in Nordica Hell and Back and the toe box was way too big which I didn't realize until I skiied them.  Then after spending an entire day trying to get a boot to fit they put me in the Tecnica Cochise.  I had tried them at another shop and they fit perfect.  I wished I bought them at the other shop!  Anyway, I'm stuck with this shop because they will not return my money. 

 

THey put me in the Cochise and the shell is so small!  They squashed out the liner and my toe is literally plunging out off the bottom of the liner.  I don't think it should be like that, should it?  I put just the liner on and they are painful.  PUt the boot on and its downright excrutiating.  I try to squat forward as far as possible and it helps but my toes are curled and when I skied they froze.  I was worried about frostbite.  I had to stop 3 times to warm them and put them back on again.  I can't imagine getting hottronics in there.

 

My skiing is really bad now and my thighs were burning.  Normally, I can ski all day without my thighs hurting.  Well, when we do the trees a lot they start to hurt but we didn't hit the trees much at all this day.

 

THey say when they squash out they will be better and I hear others say you have to ski them a dozen times and then they will be fine.  I find this a bitter pill to swallow.  These days I barely get 8 to 10 days in a season.  I don't want to go a year or two with painful feet!  How come I used to be able to throw on a pair of boots and be happy and now all of a sudden I have to spend my life fussing with them?

 

Please help!

post #2 of 9

Most boot manufacturers make their boots, so that an even size and the next half size come in the same shell size (i.e. 23.5 shell size for size 23 and 23.5).  The difference is the thickness of the liners.  There are some exceptions to this, but for the most part this is what you'll see the majority of the time.

 

Assuming your size is really a 23.5 and you have been shell fit previously (your foot in the boot shell with the liner removed and you have adequate space between your heel and back of the boot), then a 22 is definitely too small for you.

 

Boots should be snug, but not painful.  I'd readdress this with the boot fitter.

 

Good luck.

 

T. -- www.wasatchreport.com

post #3 of 9

They are too small.  My Cochise fit fine and were/are comfortable from day 1.  I have 50 something days in them.

post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
I'll go back and see what can be done. They haven't been very willing to try different boots. They're trying to tell me they need time.
post #5 of 9

My Pro 130's (stock liner) took a good 20 or so days to pack out in the toes, FWIW. These liners have been reviewed to be short lasted. Did the shop shell fit you in the Cochise? Can/will they let you try a larger liner in the same shell?

 

(If you're stuck with them..) might try cutting shallow slices in the neoprene toe?

post #6 of 9
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What? ? ! 20 days to pack out? Short lasted liners? Cut slices in the toe? Sounds insane! Why should I spend this much money and go though all that?
I doubt they could get a larger liner in the shell.
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Skieast9 View Post

What? ? ! 20 days to pack out? Short lasted liners? Cut slices in the toe? Sounds insane! Why should I spend this much money and go though all that?
I doubt they could get a larger liner in the shell.

Its called fitting boots. The fitter needs feedback to be able to make adjustment. Non of the issues you described are abnormal. And the fixes describes are equally not "insane." Let the fitters do what they do to make the boots work. Non of us have seen your feet or how it fits in the shell so all we can do is guess. The fitter does have the information, let them use it for your advantage.  

post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

Follow up:  I was afraid to spend another several hours at the shop but I'm happy to say it did not take very long.  I went back to the shop and saw Geoff at Alpine Haus and he not only found me a wonderful pair of boots but he did it in minutes.  I can tell these ones will do the trick.  They are very snug but my feet are not scrunched.  I can tell these boots will be great.  I can't wait to ski them!!  Thank you all for giving me the confidence to go back.  I was really deflated.

post #9 of 9

Congrats on getting that issue corrected.  Now go have fun.


Edited by mtcyclist - 2/20/14 at 7:31pm
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