I live about 25 miles outside of NYC. I goto MT PETER, Windham, Hunter etc......I realize that due to proximity these mountains get incredibly crowded on the weekends. Of course, I am willing to deal with a little crowd, however, it's insane how packed these places get on a Saturday. It almost makes it not enjoyable dealing with such large crowds. I go during the week when I can, but sometimes I cannot get away.....I will drive anywhere.....I am an intermediate and I really enjoy groomers.