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post #31 of 56
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1) I have no clue as to the construction of the construction of the 810 (that's not entirely true; I know it has modern, metal edges), but It did not feel flipcore-ish, not like the less precise 8.0Ti, and certainly not like the Latigo.  It felt like a full-camber ski, very positive in its response to input.  I'd like to hear your on-snow take on them if you get a chance to ride 'em, you have a good way of describing these slide-y things.  

 

2)  I only rode the SR88.  What puzzles me is that the 174 SR95 is turnier (by a good bit) than the 19M 177 SR88.  Any ideas as to why?

{C}

 

 

Markojp, I was thinking about your (and philpug's) positive reviews of the Nrgy skis when I wrote mine, and I +1 your recommendation to Tog to get on them to see for himself.  What troubles me is not only that I didn't click with them, but that the folks that do are who I consider to be better skiers than me (I haven't seen you ski, but from reading you, I assume you can turn left and right on any part of the mountain and teach others how to do so, and I know Phil rips harder than I do).  Is this an expert-only ski?  Or was I incredibly unlucky with tune or mount point with three different pair of Nrgys?

FWIW, I plan on getting out on the Nemesis and Wild Belle again tomorrow to see if the skis at Copper were an anomaly 

post #32 of 56

Nice reviews.  Great to get a few runs with you!  

 

Looking at both sets of reviews here, comparing to my notes: it is interesting to see the similarities, despite the differences in skiing style.  Many of your reviews mirror mine.....I loved the MX series and FX series from Kastle, find the Head Supershape lineup great for what they do, find the Soul 7 good in performance but not the feel I want, and was let down by the Nordica NRGy stuff.  You both basically could have written my reviews!    

post #33 of 56

Reading your Mantra review I found myself nodding my head... haven't been on them yet but what you said is exactly what I would expect based on the changes Volkl made.  Full rocker is great in soft snow so why on earth you'd want that for such a "narrow" ski is beyond me.

 

Interesting to hear the NRGy's are so... lacking in energy.  Ironic, no?

post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by JayT View Post
 

Reading your Mantra review I found myself nodding my head... haven't been on them yet but what you said is exactly what I would expect based on the changes Volkl made.  Full rocker is great in soft snow so why on earth you'd want that for such a "narrow" ski is beyond me.

 

Interesting to hear the NRGy's are so... lacking in energy.  Ironic, no?

Interesting you mention that: I try to chat up people on the lift to get impressions of what others are finding, and Fair's review impressions are pretty spot on throughout.   Not just with the Mantra, but with several of the skis he liked or didn't like.  Views on the lift and in the lift line correlate well with his thoughts.  Musta heard 4 people complain that the Mantra wasn't up to snuff. I didn't ski it, can't say personally yet.  Then again, following along with a previous thread on how most average, non technical skiers skid down the hill, the Mantra may actually be an improvement. I am sure it skids easier and is less catchy than the old model.   Maybe Volkl went for how most people ski, not how good skiers ski, and decided it was a bigger market.  All conjecture, of course.  

post #35 of 56

Which ski is best for full body rotating technique in powder or cut up?

post #36 of 56

^^ Also, I really need a ski that allows me to excel in the backseat.

post #37 of 56

Wait, if I'm back, wouldn't that mean I don't want tail rocker? Cause it's already bent. On the other hand, if it's not I might get thrown or hang up the tails. You know, like that Mantra (sounds like they fixed it though) . So a turned up tail at least with a smidge of squish? Still confused.

post #38 of 56
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Wait, if I'm back, wouldn't that mean I don't want tail rocker? Cause it's already bent. On the other hand, if it's not I might get thrown or hang up the tails. You know, like that Mantra (sounds like they fixed it though) . So a turned up tail at least with a smidge of squish? Still confused.

 

but how do you feel about camber for this technique? 

post #39 of 56

Superb reviews.

 

Thanks!

post #40 of 56

As others stated, insightful reviews. I'm itching to find a dealer for Scott to check out The Ski, and wonder if you can point me in the direction of anyone in the front range area. Searches including Scott's dealer locator have been futile.

 

Thank you--

post #41 of 56
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Originally Posted by Optigrab View Post
 

As others stated, insightful reviews. I'm itching to find a dealer for Scott to check out The Ski, and wonder if you can point me in the direction of anyone in the front range area. Searches including Scott's dealer locator have been futile.

 

Thank you--


Check with Eskimo Shop in Centennial

post #42 of 56

Will do. Appreciate it

post #43 of 56

Very useful info! I didn't know that Sturtevants have Kastle for demo. Need to check 'em out.

 

Drahtguy, I see that you rode the 188 E88, but the MX88 in 178. Is the MX stiffer?

post #44 of 56
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Originally Posted by Giotto View Post

Very useful info! I didn't know that Sturtevants have Kastle for demo. Need to check 'em out.

Drahtguy, I see that you rode the 188 E88, but the MX88 in 178. Is the MX stiffer?

The MX sure didn't feel stiffer on the snow. It is just such a smooth, damp, enjoyable ski.
post #45 of 56
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Originally Posted by Giotto View Post

Very useful info! I didn't know that Sturtevants have Kastle for demo. Need to check 'em out.

Drahtguy, I see that you rode the 188 E88, but the MX88 in 178. Is the MX stiffer?

The E88 (2015) is a very fun ski that is much better in chopped up snow and crud than the current model. The MX is heavier, more stable at speed, and not as turny as the E88, either the current model or next years. The MX and E 88's share one common dimension, but other than that, they're different creatures. Another ski to keep on your radar will be the new Dynastar Powertrak 89, and the Stockli stormrider 88. The stormrider feels like a blend between the Kastle and the 2015 E-88.Hope that helps.
post #46 of 56

Regarding your test of Nordica NGRY 90  - I have tested them few days ago 184 cm! The best ski I ever had! I was testing on the hard slopes at 3200m (Moeltall) on the groomed terrain and outside on a powder  - amazing precision and edge grip on hard - and that is for me the vital. The ski never slip!  I will use that ski also for freeride touring and powder was never not a problem for me on the other side you never know when you will risk your life when icy and hard.

post #47 of 56
All being said above all is great! Yes for 2 days straight I saw the head tent being the most busy of all. The bring back of the revised monster line impressed all being lighter and quicker yet being very damp at high speeds as the old models. Yes we got 2 days of kicked conditions and some fluffy stuff on the second day. The new stuff from head is really better than the past! Oh by the head jumped into moldable boot game as well with a few boots as well, and yes they are very well liked after listening to a buck of people who rode them.. The biggest jump was in the boot world. All stepped up with a ton of better boots. Who stood out was the big 7 to bring better boots to us all! Try the new stuff for next year, all are making real deal flex boots again! Thank gosh again!
post #48 of 56
More to come later, but the Monster line is special. Head did a great job on these skis.
post #49 of 56
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You're right, I don't notice the early rise on the Rally. But I did ski the Rally yesterday back to back with an older pair of the Head Monster 78's. And while the two skis are similar in waist dimensions (77 as compared to 78 in the 177 length) I did notice a difference.in turn initiation and overall forgiveness. So whatever Head is doing when it comes to rocker, they are obviously onto something. That Rally is a real hero ski. I'll be interested to see if I have the same impression of the new Titan. As for the SX, I guess I'll have to jump on a pair and form my on opinion.

Thanks

Can you elaborate on the differences between the Monster 78, Rally, and even the Head Rev 85?

 

I've been skiing the Monster 78 for several years now but looking to change things up a bit. I live on the East Coast, with a trip out west once a year, so I'm not interested in anything wider than 85mm underfoot.

post #50 of 56
Kastle FX94 - the HP version?

Any time on the BMX 105?
post #51 of 56
The FX95 HP is an absolute ripping ski in true Kastle fashion. Smooth, damp, dependable. One of my favorites from SIA. The BMX 105 handled all the snow conditions I could toss at it. It skis much narrower than it is.
post #52 of 56
^thanks will need to get on that
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The FX95 HP is an absolute ripping ski in true Kastle fashion. Smooth, damp, dependable. One of my favorites from SIA. The BMX 105 handled all the snow conditions I could toss at it. It skis much narrower than it is.

 hey Drahtguy--did you get on the non HP version of the FX(%--whats the difference? A previous poster called the Monsters--trucks--was that you r impression too. Must have been a blast…Blitz....

post #54 of 56
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Originally Posted by Drahtguy View Post

The FX95 HP is an absolute ripping ski in true Kastle fashion. Smooth, damp, dependable. One of my favorites from SIA. The BMX 105 handled all the snow conditions I could toss at it. It skis much narrower than it is.

Did you ski the 181 version or larger? Thanks
post #55 of 56
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Originally Posted by givethepigeye View Post

Did you ski the 181 version or larger? Thanks

I'd have to check my notes, but IIRC that was it.
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 hey Drahtguy--did you get on the non HP version of the FX(%--whats the difference? A previous poster called the Monsters--trucks--was that you r impression too. Must have been a blast…Blitz....

It was a blast for sure. I did not ride the non HP. UGASkiDawg was on both versions. He told me he could only really notice a difference in the bumps. He was extremely positive about both skis. I think he's raiding his kids' college funds to buy a set.

I found the Head Monster 88 to be a smooth, trustworthy ride. Chewed up the crud and well-worn groomers like a champ. Edge hold was phenomenal but yet it was easy to pivot and snake through moguls. I was on the 184.
post #56 of 56

I am going to close this thread since it is soooo last year. This years will be coming soon. 

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