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what muscles get used the most in hop turns?

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Curious to hear your opinion on what are the primary muscles used during hop turns.

Also, are hop turns equivalent to doing plyometrics?

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Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post

Curious to hear your opinion on what are the primary muscles used during hop turns.
Also, are hop turns equivalent to doing plyometrics?

All of'em (?). Plyrometrics? Good jump turns are actually very subtle. I never think of plyorometrics quite in that light, but the answer might be 'kind of'. smile.gif
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Curious to hear your opinion on what are the primary muscles used during hop turns.
Also, are hop turns equivalent to doing plyometrics?
Simple view:
On the way up, it's concentric action of bulk of em: gatrocs, quads, glutes, lower back....shorten.
On way back down, they eccentricly lengthen
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Quads.

The benefit of plyo box jumps actually comes from the sudden fiber tightening on the landing coming down off the box--not the jump up. The landing of a hop turn is obviously a lot softer--I wouldn't expect a plyo effect.

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Quads.
The benefit of plyo box jumps actually comes from the sudden fiber tightening on the landing coming down off the box--not the jump up. The landing of a hop turn is obviously a lot softer--I wouldn't expect a plyo effect.

Really? No plyo effect in hop turns due to a soft landing?
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core and heart and lung if done properly.

 

My legs hurt worse after a SL skiing run over Hop turns. Done on the right pitch with the right timing the ski cause a lot of the hop. 

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Hip extension?

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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
 

Quads.

The benefit of plyo box jumps actually comes from the sudden fiber tightening on the landing coming down off the box--not the jump up. The landing of a hop turn is obviously a lot softer--I wouldn't expect a plyo effect.

 

Technically, you shouldn't jump down from a box jump, you should step down. The point of a box jump is to get the power generation benefit without the landing stress. They are gravity-assisted, if you will. 

 

Unfortunately box jumps often get used as you have described, making them a dangerous option for many, particularly for bigger athletes, and especially with a higher box. 

 

If you want the "plyo effect" (which is really the stretch-reflex from landing to jumping) then a squat jump is a better option. 

 

You might be right that the hop turning isn't entirely plyometric, although I would suggest that's because your boots don't allow your ankles and feet to flex much (depending on the boot/footbed).

 

As to the original question, I like @markojp's answer: "all of 'em".

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