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2 bros , march 17-24th cheap powder trip. where to fly from NJ ?

Poll Results: where should we go for the powder skiing i describe

 
  • 18% (2)
    Revelstoke BC
  • 0% (0)
    Panorama BC
  • 72% (8)
    SLC (utah)
  • 0% (0)
    Mt Hood / Timberline OR
  • 0% (0)
    Seattle ???
  • 9% (1)
    CO fly into denver then go (comment where?)
  • 0% (0)
    Different place (comment with it)
11 Total Votes  
post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hello.

 

So initially we were trying to limit our 2 person trip to around 1100$ each including hotel flight rental car and 5 days on the mountain.

1. We want to do powder skiing. (true vertical is our second most interesting thing) // we did our first trip out west to big sky in january and both of us bought powder skis and want to do 2-3 trips a year now. (we ski groomers every weekend on the east)

 

 

what do you suggest? here is what i have

 

Our Options

 

1.we thought SLC was a no brainer due to the cheap hotels and all the mountains within driving distance until we realized the flights back were like 9-13 hours with weird routing paterns to phoenix or LAX (not ohare or South carolina)

2. Mt Hood Meadows / Timberline, not bad hotels are filling up fast. but meets our criteria .

 

3. Denver / somewhere in CO , which places are within driving range of the airport which wouldnt kill us lodging wise / lift wise. Also flights are very cheap here.

 

4. Revelstoke or Panorama BC . cheap lodging , far drive , decent lift prices. Rumor has it they can be icy? fact or fiction? Also the drive looks long from Calgary but thats how far we drive to 3 day weekend trips. fly into Kelowna due to avalache control right?

 

5. Seattle flights are dirt cheap but doesnt it rain alot there ? Crystal mountain (4 hour drive which is as far as driving to whistler from here)

 

6. What else are we missing? thanks

 

 

 

 

 

how do we tell or is it even possible to tell which one is most likely to have the powder that we saw in big sky or more powder than the east (i know this isnt hard but which one has the best %)

 

 

 

 

 

Too expensive

 

Big sky - flights

Jackson Hole - flights

Whistler blackcomb - lifttickets

beaver creak (couldnt find hotels near it that werent 400$ a night)


Edited by yuik - 2/5/14 at 8:54pm
post #2 of 18
I voted SLC, because it's worth a little inconvenience on return flights.

A few thoughts about your other selections:

Of all the places in BC, Panorama has the least snowfall. Revelstoke is probably a better choice.

Seattle? We don't actually get powder, we get a lot of 12% water content snow, which is great for building a stable base as well as building character. Same for Timberline/Mt Hood.

Comparably, Utah snow is probably around 7-8% water content, CO maybe drier but not as much quantity.

See if you can get reasonably priced flights to Spokane. From there you could drive to Schweitzer (ID) Red Mt, or Whitewater (both BC), plus several other ski areas. They are all less expensive than most destination resorts.

Check out Tony Crocker's site bestsnow.net
post #3 of 18
Check Avon (Comfort Inn IIRC for something like $77/night) for lodging near Vail/BC, although still tough on your budget.

Bestsnow.net will probably tell you that Utah has the best chance for powder statistically. CO is having a great year, true vert isn't necessarily the thing closer to DEN however if that really matters, although maybe Copper....
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 

that bestsnow.net is amazing!

 

just for clarification, what % water content is a big sky or bridger bowl compared to say a whiteface NY , killington VT sugarloaf Maine, or tremblant Canada ?

 

thanks.

post #5 of 18

I flew from JFK to SLC and back. both direct flights for $339.00. It costs about $12 per day to park just outside of the airport and they shuttle you in and pick you up.  You have to fly the red eye home but that buys you a full day of skiing while saving a night's lodging.  I said it before and I'll say it again: check craigslist for rentals.  I found people dumping their time shares at Snowbird for less than a halfway decent room in Sandy would have cost.  If you do that you can shuttle to LCC, bounce between Alta and Snowbird and not bother renting a car.  Limits your dining options pretty severely though.

post #6 of 18

Are you just looking for a statistical "this is the most likely place I will find powder on a given date in March" or are you really after powder only?  If it is the latter, I think you're going to have be a lot more agile with your trip planning, and honestly, being on the east coast is going to make that harder to pull off.  Getting to real powder skiing means living out west someplace and being able to drop everything and get in right behind the storm, which also means driving in really iffy road conditions, too. Powder skiing is a lifestyle unless you are very wealthy (think: Learjet).  I grew up in NY State and my die-hard ski buddies moved west and worked menial jobs and did things like buy telemark setups so they could get get to the almighty powder. 

 

In any event, you're going to have a great time wherever you go as long as there is decent snow, being there for powder days is icing on the cake.  

 

More experienced people on here can correct me if I am way off base, but the only way to guarantee powder skiing is to watch the weather and be able to stay in a likely area for a couple of weeks so you can get to the resort that got the snow, that's your statistical approach.  Otherwise, look at heli-skiing, certain cat-skiing, or a guided back-country type trip.

post #7 of 18

What flatcountry said. You'll see on bestsnow.net that Tony works out the chances of a powder day at some resorts and even at the places supposedly famous for powder, it's actually pretty slim. But that doesn't mean you won't have good conditions and a great time.

 

Quote:
 

5. Seattle flights are dirt cheap but doesnt it rain alot there ? Crystal mountain (4 hour drive which is as far as driving to whistler from here)

 Typically it rains consistantly in Seattle in the winter but you're not skiing in Seattle, you're skiing 60 miles away in the mountains. Crystal is under 2 hours from downtown (less from the airport) but on-mountain lodging may break your budget--it's pretty overpriced.

 

Quote:
 we thought SLC was a no brainer due to the cheap hotels and all the mountains within driving distance until we realized the flights back were like 9-13 hours with weird routing paterns to phoenix or LAX (not ohare or South carolina)

Delta flies nonstop from SLC to EWR, and they do it on March 24th.

post #8 of 18

I voted SLC just because it seems so damned easy to get there and find a place to stay cheap.  However, if I had time to research a bit I'd look at what it took to get to in and out of Whitefish.  I hear they are having a banner season.

post #9 of 18
We are. But the last week has been super frigid with no one here and I'm getting used to walking in at lunch time to an empty Summit House. So, no longer trying to convince people to come to the place with the weird name. Their loss. More empty slopes for me. Yesterday I had to share our 3000 acres with 137 people. Today there were 500, darn it.
post #10 of 18

not sure what the return flight thing is all about.  Delta has a 5pm flight direct from PHL, I've often taken it from EWR, but not this year.  Take the 7:15 PHL Delta flight out and be on the slopes at 12:30 and last day, ski until 2pm, and take the 5pm home. 

 

 get the Delta card with 30K miles and do it for free.  (although most lfight at 32K).    Better yet, I've gotten and taken offers from AmEx for 50-74K Delta, free. I shuffle the various airline cards and fly free. I just got 50K from Chase. free.

post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 

 

so right now we are between revelstoke and slc. I take it slc would have better powder % because within an hour we could drive to alot of places which is a higher % chance of any of them getting snow. and by powder we mean anything more than an inch or two.

 

where revelstoke we are kind of stuck there.

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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
 

not sure what the return flight thing is all about.  Delta has a 5pm flight direct from PHL, I've often taken it from EWR, but not this year.  Take the 7:15 PHL Delta flight out and be on the slopes at 12:30 and last day, ski until 2pm, and take the 5pm home. 

 

 get the Delta card with 30K miles and do it for free.  (although most lfight at 32K).    Better yet, I've gotten and taken offers from AmEx for 50-74K Delta, free. I shuffle the various airline cards and fly free. I just got 50K from Chase. free.

thanks for the advice , yeah delta is rough into ewr but the flights out of philly are really nice. i should have thought of that. thanks

post #12 of 18
Revelstoke is in BFE. Not cheap to get there and it will take a very long time.
Do you have BC gear? Without it Revy is only ho hum.

If you really want to do Canada, fly SWA to GEG and ski WW or Red.

I'd stick with DEN or SLC, for flat out cheapest/easiest.
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

Revelstoke is in BFE. Not cheap to get there and it will take a very long time.
Do you have BC gear? Without it Revy is only ho hum.

If you really want to do Canada, fly SWA to GEG and ski WW or Red.

I'd stick with DEN or SLC, for flat out cheapest/easiest.


So transmitter shovel and airbag are needed
post #14 of 18

I voted SLC because it is the easiest to get to, likely the best value and the best odds for getting lucky with pow. 

 

I feel your stoke post-Big Sky, but catching pow as a destination skier is hit or miss unless you are planning on booking day of the trip.  So be prepared to have fun either way.  There is nothing wrong with skiing Alta/bird between storms.  Also, consider Snowbasin midweek if there is on the back end of a storm cycle.  Very little traffic so you have a better shot at finding the goods after it is long gone in LCC.

 

Powder skis are a long term investment.  Some years they get more action than other years.  It is all about being lucky.

post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by yuik View Post

So transmitter shovel and airbag are needed
Assuming that's the case, you also need training in both how to avoid using the gear and what to do if you do. I'm not sure that's what yuik meant, though.
post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by litterbug View Post

Assuming that's the case, you also need training in both how to avoid using the gear and what to do if you do. I'm not sure that's what yuik meant, though.

Now like within the confines of the resort aka in between two trails that go to a lift . Do I need back country stuff ? In big sky we didn't we could sink 3 feet or so and had to watch out for tree wells but they did a lot of blasting and I don't think it was possible to get caught in an avalanche inside the resort . Is this true at revelstoke (btw we rolled the dice and did revelstoke we figured with work conferences SLC is a much more likely place for us to head to in the future ).
post #17 of 18

The cheapest and most painless option BY FAR is SLC.  It's not even close.  The proximity of the SLC airport to lodging options and so many ski resorts, world class terrain and powder, can fly into SLC in the morning and be on the slopes before noon -  truly a special place.  

post #18 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuik View Post

Now like within the confines of the resort aka in between two trails that go to a lift . Do I need back country stuff ? In big sky we didn't we could sink 3 feet or so and had to watch out for tree wells but they did a lot of blasting and I don't think it was possible to get caught in an avalanche inside the resort . Is this true at revelstoke (btw we rolled the dice and did revelstoke we figured with work conferences SLC is a much more likely place for us to head to in the future ).
No, I wouldn't worry about avy gear inbounds. I was responding to a comment about accessing out of bounds territory from the lifts. So don't mind me, I misunderstood your plans. redface.gif
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