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post #31 of 173

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We had our vote here at The Mammoth Gathering and we are on board with Jackson Hole. We the other thing discussed is that we missed the social aspect of ONE BIG GATHERING, so for next year there will be only one  western event. Now that does not mean, that someone can put together a mini gathering of their design and invite people, but there will one main Gathering at Jackson Hole. Dates are TBD as soon as ge can get someone to step up as the Gathermeister for the event we can get more details pinned down. 

 

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Glad to hear this!

 

Ya Mr. Antisocial who wouldn't leave Winter Park this year. ;)

 

 

post #32 of 173
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post
 

Let the self-nomination process begin for the 15 Jackson Hole Gathermeister. I would nominate JohnL;)....I think Jgiddyup proved it does not need to be a local. But, nobody would argue against Bob Peters. And, yes, Uncle Louie just rules.

 

Just sayin' but memory recall from Utah indicated that a more winter weather time period, with a slightly higher powder probability, seemed to be a preference. My sense is that nailing down a timeframe is more of an issue. Early March does not work well for me as my home mountain is still open., I'd prefer to end my season in the west near the end of March. Perhaps a dreaded poll should be opened for time frame. I'm just one vote, we all need to speak for ourselves.

 

Also, if you are headed to JH next season, the 2015 Mountain Collective Pass thread indicates that anyone purchasing now gets a third day at a one of their mountains. So we have the opportunity to ski 3 free days at Jackson then get 50 percent off the other days. Pass pays for itself in 4 days.

 

Jackson Hole is in Montana, correct?

 

Since I haven't been to JH in about 15 years, me as a GM wouldn't work out too well...

 

This has been discussed in the other 2015 Gathering thread(s), but I'm pretty certain the consensus has been for a single Western Gathering, prime season for that particular area. Which means earlier, rather than later for JH (especially compared to other Western areas.)

 

For me personally, an additional trip out West seems to work out well for early April (after the local areas have closed.) But I prefer the Big Kahona to be in prime ski season. That's my vote. There is nothing preventing a bunch of industrious Bears planning a second trip out West in April...

post #33 of 173
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

We had our vote here at The Mammoth Gathering and we are on board with Jackson Hole. We the other thing discussed is that we missed the social aspect of ONE BIG GATHERING, so for next year there will be only one  western event. Now that does not mean, that someone can put together a mini gathering of their design and invite people, but there will one main Gathering at Jackson Hole. Dates are TBD as soon as ge can get someone to step up as the Gathermeister for the event we can get more details pinned down. 

 

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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post
 

Glad to hear this!

 

Ya Mr. Antisocial who wouldn't leave Winter Park this year. ;)

 

 

 

Yeah, hard to leave paradise.  

 

Bummed me out though....y'all didn't get to see my new duds.  Very skittlish.

post #34 of 173
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Yeah, hard to leave paradise.  

 

Bummed me out though....y'all didn't get to see my new duds.  Very skittlish.

 

From the Urban Dictionary:

 

adjective

Used to describe someone who is so fruity, you can taste the rainbow when around them.
We are not sure if Jonathan is a homosexual, but he certainly acts very skittlish.

 

:rotflmao: 

post #35 of 173
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From the Urban Dictionary:

 

adjective

Used to describe someone who is so fruity, you can taste the rainbow when around them.
We are not sure if Jonathan is a homosexual, but he certainly acts very skittlish.

 

:rotflmao: 

You better be careful next time you ski with @FairToMiddlin 

post #36 of 173
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post
 

Yeah, hard to leave paradise.  

 

Bummed me out though....y'all didn't get to see my new duds.  Very skittlish.

 

From the Urban Dictionary:

 

adjective

Used to describe someone who is so fruity, you can taste the rainbow when around them.
We are not sure if Jonathan is a homosexual, but he certainly acts very skittlish.

 

:rotflmao: 

Hmmm, thanks for pointing that out Noodler.

 

;-)

post #37 of 173
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post
 

You better be careful next time you ski with @FairToMiddlin 


Hey, I don't write for the Urban Dictionary.  Tell FTM to take it up with them!

post #38 of 173

For those of us who are instructors, late January-first week in February is by far the best time period to schedule the Gathering.  It's very difficult to get away in late February through March because of all the holiday/spring break crowds (we are needed to staff the ski schools).  Actually, wouldn't that be a consideration for Jackson, too?  Feb./March will likely be the busiest, most crowded time period to go.


Edited by mike_m - 3/26/14 at 5:42am
post #39 of 173

Looks like an El Nino year.  What sayeth the @Tony Crocker

post #40 of 173

He'll sayeth.

post #41 of 173

Jackson Hole averages 91% of normal snowfall during strong El Nino months and 121% of normal during strong La Nina months.  That is a big spread which definitely classifies Jackson in "the strongly favored by La Nina" category.  Nonetheless I give little credibility to the forecast at this point.  The current status is very mild La Nina and the northern spring is the least stable time of year for El Nino/La Nina.  History says that in March/April we really have no idea what El Nino status will be 6 months from now, much less next winter.  I have read some studies showing remarkable analogies between current Pacific temps by region to January-March 1997, and the second largest El Nino emerged by June/July 1997.   So I say these predictions mean little now, but if we are in a huge El Nino by July (which WOULD tend to persist through our winter) that would be the point where some might want to reexamine the Gathering site.  I would not think that July would be too late to reexamine but some people might, and and expectation of 91% of normal snowfall does not necessarily mean bad skiing for a place that gets as much snow as Jackson.

 

The timing of the Gathering is another subject, and I'm sure most of you will anticipate my comments.  President's Week is a logical demarcation line, as I presume Epic would never schedule a Gathering during that week for crowd/pricing competition. Any week later than Christmas/New Year's holidays and prior to President's Week is a reasonable choice, and any week later than President's Week is a questionable one, with each later week in the season becoming an increasingly poor choice.

 

In addition to the higher sun angle being damaging to the snow on much of Jackson's terrain, the temperature inversions which can prevent that damage also tend to be rare after February 15. After reading a detailed analysis of Salt Lake Valley inversions, I thought that Jackson has a colder climate with more snow on the ground, so maybe the winter inversion season lasts longer.  I asked Bob Peters and he said the inversions are rare after February 15.  Thus my opinion about the President's Week demarcation line has been reinforced.  I will add that I had a 5-day trip over President's weekend 1995 and the Lower Faces went through a melt/freeze in late morning of the first day and remained in that state for the whole trip.

 

Long term history says last half of January to first week of February is the safest time frame to schedule in advance for Jackson skiing.  Both of the prior successful Jackson Gatherings were first week of February.

post #42 of 173
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post

 

The timing of the Gathering is another subject, and I'm sure most of you will anticipate my comments.  President's Week is a logical demarcation line, as I presume Epic would never schedule a Gathering during that week for crowd/pricing competition. Any week later than Christmas/New Year's holidays and prior to President's Week is a reasonable choice, and any week later than President's Week is a questionable one, with each later week in the season becoming an increasingly poor choice.

 

 

Of course, since I teach (and thus can't schedule a vacation), if you did schedule it President's week I could come...

post #43 of 173
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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post
 

For those of us who are instructors, late January-first week in February is by far the best time period to schedule the Gathering.  It's very difficult to get away in late February through March because of all the holiday/spring break crowds (we are needed to staff the ski schools).  Actually, wouldn't that be a consideration for Jackson, too?  Feb./March will likely be the busiest, most crowded time period to go.


The problem with this time period is the SIA show.  You knock out anyone attending SIA.

post #44 of 173

To those who were at the Utah Gathering......who nominated Jackson Hole?  

The person who nominated it may need to help find a Gathermeister.......just saying :D

post #45 of 173
This year's Gathering at Alta/Snowbird, which would be a safe choice over a 3+ month range, was selected and voted into this exact time frame.
post #46 of 173
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The problem with this time period is the SIA show.  You knock out anyone attending SIA.

Yeah. Was thinking that. It is why we missed this years gala event.
post #47 of 173
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THIS!  I don't have a dog in the fight but Taos is a place that belongs on everyone's bucket list.

 

Still waiting for a Buck Hill ESA LOL!

 

This^^^

post #48 of 173
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Also, if you are headed to JH next season, the 2015 Mountain Collective Pass thread indicates that anyone purchasing now gets a third day at a one of their mountains. So we have the opportunity to ski 3 free days at Jackson then get 50 percent off the other days. Pass pays for itself in 4 days.


 



Excellent point - the BUY TODAY and get 3rd day free has been going on for the last 3 weeks. Who knows how much longer it'll be available? I got mine smile.gif
post #49 of 173
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To those who were at the Utah Gathering......who nominated Jackson Hole?  

The person who nominated it may need to help find a Gathermeister.......just saying :D

 

Someone named Trish (or Tricia?) called in to GMD and nominated Jackson Hole via speaker phone. We need to find her...

post #50 of 173

It's really cool that you've decided on Jackson Hole.  It's a great place for a gathering.

 

So it looks like SIA for 2015 will run Jan 29 to Feb 3.  Is that correct?

 

President's Week is Feb 14 through 21 in 2015.  My sympathies to cometjo, but scheduling anything at Jackson Hole during Pres Week is a non-starter.  It's a zoo around here that week.

 

To me, that means the gathering should be like Feb 5 through 8.

 

While I'm somewhat inclined to offer to be gathermeister, I'm a little reluctant to make any significant commitments for next winter.  I'm in the mri and x-ray and appointment phases right now leading up to possible replacement of both knees.  If I decide to do that, the timing will depend on when the doc can do it.  If it ends up being mid to late summer, I may not be doing much skiing in early Feb of next year.  I'll know a lot more in three weeks. 

post #51 of 173
Not part of this debate, but to me whoever proposed the idea and backed it should be forced to follow through with the whole thing. Why do you think I keep my head low? Someone must have been the main champion of the idea. Seems like there's your GM.
post #52 of 173
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To me, that means the gathering should be like Feb 5 through 8.

 

 

Actually that entire 1st week of February is a non-starter for anyone participating in SIA.

post #53 of 173
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Actually that entire 1st week of February is a non-starter for anyone participating in SIA.

 

The SIA site - http://siasnowshow.snowsports.org/ - puts the dates of the show at Jan 29 to Feb 1 and then the on-snow demos Feb 2 & 3.  

 

Feb 3 is a Tuesday.  I don't know how SIA works... is there more stuff going on after the 3rd?

post #54 of 173
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
 

 

The SIA site - http://siasnowshow.snowsports.org/ - puts the dates of the show at Jan 29 to Feb 1 and then the on-snow demos Feb 2 & 3.  

 

Feb 3 is a Tuesday.  I don't know how SIA works... is there more stuff going on after the 3rd?


Yes, the remaining days of that week are also not available (although not part of the "official" show).  The Gathering is usually scheduled for a week (with possible bonus days at the front end and tail end).  That really kills any consideration of that 1st week of February if any of the SIA participants want to be able to attend.

post #55 of 173
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
 

It's really cool that you've decided on Jackson Hole.  It's a great place for a gathering.

 

So it looks like SIA for 2015 will run Jan 29 to Feb 3.  Is that correct?

 

President's Week is Feb 14 through 21 in 2015.  My sympathies to cometjo, but scheduling anything at Jackson Hole during Pres Week is a non-starter.  It's a zoo around here that week.

 

To me, that means the gathering should be like Feb 5 through 8.

 

While I'm somewhat inclined to offer to be gathermeister, I'm a little reluctant to make any significant commitments for next winter.  I'm in the mri and x-ray and appointment phases right now leading up to possible replacement of both knees.  If I decide to do that, the timing will depend on when the doc can do it.  If it ends up being mid to late summer, I may not be doing much skiing in early Feb of next year.  I'll know a lot more in three weeks. 


Not intending to hijack, but that sounds like it will make it tough to continue "the streak".

 

From what I'm hearing from others concerning SIA and not wanting to run into President's Day weekend, late January is starting to look like something to be considered.  This is also inside the sweet-spot for Tony Crocker's best snow.

post #56 of 173
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Yes, the remaining days of that week are also not available (although not part of the "official" show).  The Gathering is usually scheduled for a week (with possible bonus days at the front end and tail end).  That really kills any consideration of that 1st week of February if any of the SIA participants want to be able to attend.

 

The Gathering is a whole week now?  I guess I missed that.  I thought the "official" part used to be like a Fri/Sat/Sun with a few people tacking on days either end.

 

That probably changes whatever inclination I might have had to be in charge of anything.

post #57 of 173
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Not part of this debate, but to me whoever proposed the idea and backed it should be forced to follow through with the whole thing. Why do you think I keep my head low? Someone must have been the main champion of the idea. Seems like there's your GM.

Sib,

 

The Utah pre-voting discussion, led by GM jgiddyup, specifically excluded any consideration of when or who would be the GM. This was a major change from past practice, but the group accepted the concept, for better or worse. Informal  discussions I overheard earlier in the week indicated a return to Jackson was at the top of the areas, and, the voting confirmed what was expected. So, we've got a little bit of a mess, but, it will get worked out. 

 

 

FWIW, two other locations were proposed by individuals offering to be GM. The Grumps proposed Taos, and LadySalina/Old Boot proposed Whistler/Blackcomb. I'd love to go to either of those areas with those two duo's who would be great GM's. Just not in '15.

post #58 of 173

February 5-8 sounds like a perfect time  (no crowds, instructors can come, as can SIA attendees.  Either then or the week late January just before SIA.

post #59 of 173
Thread Starter 

Well I'm definitely in favor of a late Jan to Mid Feb get together other dates could work for Michel and I.  Our current plan is one trip again next season only this time it will be 3 to 4 weeks vice the two it was this season.  Speaking only for myself, I would want to het the gathering in the middle to end of the mentioned 3 to 4 weeks because that trip will be it for Michel & I next season. One good thing is that it isn't to difficult to get to Jackson from Denver where I assume the SIA is again next season.

 

So a Feb 5 or 6 to Feb 10 or 11 period looks pretty good on this end with some Targhee thrown in.

 

I'll do gathermeister duties again if no one else wants to by the end of next month or so.  I know Jackson OK, but in reality I would just do heavy consulting with Bob Peter's, TetonPow Junkie, Skiing in Jackson and our local Targhee guru and then take all the credit;):) 

post #60 of 173

Hows MLK holiday week in JH? If busy, the only remaining doable week would be the last week of Jan

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