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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Long story:

http://www.epicski.com/t/116308/cold-squashed-toes-in-fischer-vacuum/90#post_1684027

 

Shorter story:

My Nordica Speed Machine 10s (270-275) were a little looser than I cared for, so began the process of buying new boots last year.  Working with a good fitter, I ended up in a pair of white Fischer Vacuum 110s in a 26.5. 

 

The boots fit great everywhere except my toes.  Despite many trips to the fitter, a new liner, etc., my toes would go numb shortly after putting the boots on, and would require frequent, long breaks to regain feeling.  Also, my fore-aft alignment is not quite right, as I feel I'm using my quads too much. 

 

While on vacation a few weeks ago, I popped in to a bonafide Epicski Boot Guy, who took a quick look (despite a very busy schedule) and thought the shells were too small for me.  Upon returning home, my fitter graciously got me a larger shell (27.5) in this year's Vacuum boot and we molded them at high pressure with minimal padding.  I skied on them, but they are way too loose.  The shell fit looks fine (half inch or so), but skiing, the heel wiggles around, and there is just too much play all over.  My feet were killing me from fatigue while skiing, my calves are sore, and I had no confidence to control the skis or make quick turns.  When I ski this weekend, I will go back to my old Nordicas. 

 

So.... I'm looking to start over.  I am going back to my fitter this week or next, but thought I'd ask for some possible boots to ask about. 

 

  • Measure an 11 (medium width) in street shoes,
  • Have flexible ankles,
  • Relatively narrow heel, and
  • Normal/wide forefoot/toes. 

 

I realize that I can't be fit over the internet, but are there particular boots that I might want to start with or ask about?  The boot will also need to be cantable.  I had initially liked the fit of an Atomic boot better than the Fischer, but the sole couldn't be canted on the Atomic. 

 

Any other information I could provide that would help someone knowledgeable with suggestions?  Would a photo of my feet help?  Photo of my foot in the shells?

 

Thanks very much

ADKS

post #2 of 10

Foot measurements would help----length in cm/width in mm----size 11 hard to tell ?????;)

 

do you have custom foot beds??? influences canting needs somewhat.

 

Size of you calf (circumference) at the top of the liner???

 

mike

post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post
 

Foot measurements would help----length in cm/width in mm----size 11 hard to tell ?????;)

 

do you have custom foot beds??? influences canting needs somewhat.

 

Size of you calf (circumference) at the top of the liner???

 

mike


I will measure in mm when I get home, but it was described to me from someone at the shop as measured as a 10.5 shoe size, C width, with the right arch corresponding to a size 12 shoe and the left corresponding to a size 11.  I know that measurement description sounds kind of screwy, but that's what I've got.  The actual boot fitter is out until Wednesday. 

 

I have custom footbeds.  I believe they are posted Instaprints.

post #4 of 10

Measure you feet on the floor and on the custom footbeds.

 

Does the custom foot bed stick out from in front of your toes???

 

mike

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post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

OK, I measured as best I could.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a Brannock device in the house!  (The black big right toe was from the first day I skied this season.  Skied more than I should have on day 1 and toe got squashed.  Not banged from movement, but squashed from tightness.

 

Without footbeds, approximately

R 276 / L 269 :

 

With footbeds:

L 272 / R 279

 

Left width 106 

 

Right width 107

 

 

Calf circumference approximately 395mm

post #7 of 10

15 inch calves!  395mm calves!!!

 

15 inch calves, will push your feet forward in the shell if you extend at the ankle and knees. bump those toes-----ouch!!!!!

 

The boot you should ski in would have less forward lean to allow you to extend and still be  centered up over the boot sole----shouldn't it?

 

In the new boots you get you may need to have the shell flared to the rear to allow this centered up position.

 

Try on a Salomon X Max in a 26.5 shell----they have a really roomy toe box and if you had them heated and molded them into a more upright

 

position you might come out ok.

 

mike

post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
I didn't think I had huge calves! They certainly don't look proportionally large. I will double-check tomorrow, but pretty sure I got it right. I'll take a look at the salomon, though, thanks Mike.
post #9 of 10

Makes me wonder- I have 16in calves haha (And very wide feet). I removed the rear calf spoiler which helps, and raised the heel of the foot bed a bit too (dalbellos). Makes me wonder about my forward lean angle though- I feel like it may be too much :/

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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post

15 inch calves!  395mm calves!!!

15 inch calves, will push your feet forward in the shell if you extend at the ankle and knees. bump those toes
ouch!!!!!

The boot you should ski in would have less forward lean to allow you to extend and still be  centered up over the boot sole----shouldn't it?

In the new boots you get you may need to have the shell flared to the rear to allow this centered up position.

Try on a Salomon X Max in a 26.5 shell----they have a really roomy toe box and if you had them heated and molded them into a more upright

position you might come out ok.

mike

I re-measured and it's about 365 at the top of the liner and 398 at the thickest part of the calf (above the liner).
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