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post #31 of 39

Maybe your Mt. is just too small.  Mt. Bachelor where I ski, has thousands of acres of un-groomed snow.  Thousands of acres that are never groomed ever.  

post #32 of 39
Definitely not the same size. Lol! 167 acres vs. Bachelor's 3700. And I bet the visitor numbers are the opposite direction.
post #33 of 39

You do have competition in the area and they do have bumps.  Vote with your wallet.  I understand Camelback has some seeded bumps.  I know Blue has seeded bumps (at least based on 1 day a couple of yrs ago).  I've seen occasional bumps at Shawnee.  A little further, Elk has (at least had - been some years) very good bumps.  Belleayre has bumps almost when they open and throughout the year.  Hunter has a out of control grooming fetish, but so many people go there and it's steep so bumps will form.

 

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.  Complain.  How many people actually complain about bumps?  Serious question, would love to hear the answer from someone in mountain ops.  My guess is two.  Probably no one complains about no bumps so this is the direction they go.  I was at Gore late year right before new years when they got some new snow and the whole place was bumped.  It was awesome.  People were "complaining" on the lift.  It was "complaining" with a smile.  Mostly. 

post #34 of 39
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Definitely not the same size. Lol! 167 acres vs. Bachelor's 3700. And I bet the visitor numbers are the opposite direction.


BTW Bachelor is expanding!

post #35 of 39
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You do have competition in the area and they do have bumps.  Vote with your wallet.  I understand Camelback has some seeded bumps.  I know Blue has seeded bumps (at least based on 1 day a couple of yrs ago).  I've seen occasional bumps at Shawnee.  A little further, Elk has (at least had - been some years) very good bumps.  Belleayre has bumps almost when they open and throughout the year.  Hunter has a out of control grooming fetish, but so many people go there and it's steep so bumps will form.

 

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.  Complain.  How many people actually complain about bumps?  Serious question, would love to hear the answer from someone in mountain ops.  My guess is two.  Probably no one complains about no bumps so this is the direction they go.  I was at Gore late year right before new years when they got some new snow and the whole place was bumped.  It was awesome.  People were "complaining" on the lift.  It was "complaining" with a smile.  Mostly. 

 

+1

 

If you want to ski bumps.... you have to seek them out. 

post #36 of 39
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Only, I don't think that really is enough said. I grew up skiing in Ohio, and even they had a "mogul run." OK, you could only get about 5 moguls in a row before you ran out of vertical, but still, the point remains: there is no good reason to mow everything on the mountain, or there will be no opportunity for intermediates to challenge themselves and improve. I know people who ski maybe 5 or 6 days a year and have been in the intermediate rut for decades. They only like groomers. To me that really sounds awful. Shame on any ski area that takes away even the option to get out of your comfort zone. I don't care if it is in New Jersey or Indiana or even Kansas for that matter. 

 

Grooming has its place, of course, especially if the cover is too thin. But I think at least one run at every area ought to be left ungroomed unless absolutely necessary.

 

New Jersey and Ohio are two different places. Northern New Jersey is part of the most densely overpopulated urban area in America. Every Joey Bagadonuts from the Greater NYC metro who thinks he's the next Bode Miller or Shaun White packs that place every single weekend and holiday.  Massive overcrowding combined with a population that mostly doesn't know what in the hell they're doing means moguls are the last thing you're going to find at Mountain Creek. They need every square inch of terrain groomed to ease the crowding, and moguls will just take away terrain.

 

Skiing at MC and complaining that they groom too much is similar to going to Mad River Glen and complaining they don't groom enough. You're just in the wrong place.

post #37 of 39
Thread Starter 

I agree, but then why did they ever have moguls?? Around 5 or 6 years ago Mountain Creek had some pretty consistent  bump runs. Surely, the population and clientele hasn't grown much since then. If it was once possible, then it still is.

post #38 of 39
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I agree, but then why did they ever have moguls?? Around 5 or 6 years ago Mountain Creek had some pretty consistent  bump runs. Surely, the population and clientele hasn't grown much since then. If it was once possible, then it still is.

 

Agree there were always bumps on Zero G and Devils Bit for the 3 days every other year it opened.

 

Ownership of the mountain changed a year or two ago (back to the original VV/GG owner.  Probably changed the policy too.  Haven't been there in 6 or 7 years and really don't miss it. If you want some bumps, go to Blue in PA. Regularly has seeded bump runs (and the bump runs are always empty).

post #39 of 39
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Bumped the entire day. Hopefully  they won't groom it over this weekend. THANKS MC!!!!

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